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Message: <blockquote data-quote="stoloc" data-source="post: 5988071" data-attributes="member: 89610">1) Well there were a few classes that got multiple attacks based on level- to be honest I preferred the fact that multiple attacks could be done in 4e based on specific powers as your character levelled up.2) Yeah hated ability score damage and it's ilk in pre 4e.  Good riddance.  If you need to have things that weaken characters I much prefer the weakened condition.  Much less fiddly.  Dont even get me started on the whole permanent draining things from previous editions.3) Yes and now they have a goodly number of spells of various levels.4) Yeah much prefer NAD's to AC, touch AC, saving throw, no save confusion of previous editions.5-6)Rituals great idea poorly implemented.  Utility abilities not taking the same design space as offensive abilities great idea.7) Yeah I coulda sworn that our party wizard had Evards.  whats the problem again?  Oh it's not a 4th level spell that you get at 7th level?  psh big deal.8) Pure fluff I'm pretty sure you can use whatever cosmology that you want without breaking much.  I'm also pretty sure I've seen alternative cosmologies used in previous editions.9) Seen alignments dropped before by various groups pre 4e and no real detriment.  Also don't see any problem with using the 9 from earlier in 4e.10) Still does just as much as always.11) Yes only magic healed instantly and the options for other things was an improvement.12) Yeah and the improvement in healing rates was great for some folks- you didn't like it then reduce it.  Much ado about nothing.13) Yeah but there isn't really the need to interrupt them now any more than there is a need to interrupt the ranger from shooting you.14) Yeah I dont have any magic that uses surges - maybe talking about potions.15) Yeah I prefer mechanics to be pretty clear and straightforward and fluff to be divorced from the mechanics so it can be changed if you want.16) Yup everyone gets cool stuff and ITS GREAT.17) Meh I remember using a grid back in 1e but yeah 4e does assume it more  than previous editions.18) Meh once again prefer NAD's and the various resistances that 4w has - makes more sense to me.19) Like meatshield, skillmonkey, healbot and utility?  Yeah I remember those from 1e20) See 2 above also throw in rust monsters and other SCREW YOU PC things from previous editions.  Never liked the effects in previous editions.</blockquote>

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