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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 5704351" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>Yes, because that is the way you've set up the question.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, I'm saying that <em>since you have stated</em> the guy is intimidating, the rules of the game- the mechanics- say that <em>only</em> happens with some combination of high Cha and skill ranks.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>No, because the rules state otherwise. He may be low Cha or have few ranks, but if he IS intimidating- defined as having a good chance (for his level) of succeeding at an intimidate skill check- he will have enough of one or the other to BE intimidating.</p><p> </p><p>In other games, perhaps, but not in D&D and it's derivatives. You dress me like that, and I wouldn't be intimidating because- despite my great strength- I'm a tub of lard with no weapon training. You dress my tall, skinny buddy Kyle like this, and he, too, might not be impressive...until he starts to move around and displays the fact that he's a black belt.</p><p></p><p>(That said, some supplements do contain mundane or magical equipment that may grant bonuses to certain skill checks.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Not in D&D and related games. By rule & definition.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Think of Cha this way:</p><p></p><p>Cha = (Attractiveness + Personality)/2</p><p></p><p>So you could have:</p><p></p><p>Cha 14 = (Att 14 + Pers 14)/2</p><p>This person is as good looking as they are personable.</p><p></p><p>Cha 14 = (Att 35 + Pers -7)/2</p><p>This person is incredibly attractive, but has a bad personality...a "diva"?</p><p></p><p>Cha 14 = (Att -14 + Pers 42)/2</p><p>This person is damn ugly, but gives mesmerizing oratories.</p><p></p><p>A low Cha, OTOH, might look like:</p><p></p><p>Cha 7 = (Att -14 + Pers 28)/2</p><p>Ugly enough that the force of his personality simply gets in the way.</p><p></p><p>Cha 7 = (Att 28 + Pers -14)/2</p><p>Really good looking, but a real SOB</p><p></p><p>And so forth.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 5704351, member: 19675"] Yes, because that is the way you've set up the question. No, I'm saying that [I]since you have stated[/I] the guy is intimidating, the rules of the game- the mechanics- say that [I]only[/I] happens with some combination of high Cha and skill ranks. No, because the rules state otherwise. He may be low Cha or have few ranks, but if he IS intimidating- defined as having a good chance (for his level) of succeeding at an intimidate skill check- he will have enough of one or the other to BE intimidating. In other games, perhaps, but not in D&D and it's derivatives. You dress me like that, and I wouldn't be intimidating because- despite my great strength- I'm a tub of lard with no weapon training. You dress my tall, skinny buddy Kyle like this, and he, too, might not be impressive...until he starts to move around and displays the fact that he's a black belt. (That said, some supplements do contain mundane or magical equipment that may grant bonuses to certain skill checks.) Yes. Not in D&D and related games. By rule & definition. Think of Cha this way: Cha = (Attractiveness + Personality)/2 So you could have: Cha 14 = (Att 14 + Pers 14)/2 This person is as good looking as they are personable. Cha 14 = (Att 35 + Pers -7)/2 This person is incredibly attractive, but has a bad personality...a "diva"? Cha 14 = (Att -14 + Pers 42)/2 This person is damn ugly, but gives mesmerizing oratories. A low Cha, OTOH, might look like: Cha 7 = (Att -14 + Pers 28)/2 Ugly enough that the force of his personality simply gets in the way. Cha 7 = (Att 28 + Pers -14)/2 Really good looking, but a real SOB And so forth. [/QUOTE]
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