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A discussion of Keith Baker's post regarding the Skill Challenge system
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<blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 4298700" data-attributes="member: 20323"><p>Hey, I want to give a shout out to Stalker and all of you who have been working diligently to understand the broken mechanics of skill challenges and to create a working solution for this fun part of the game. I think Mike Mearls comment came because of your efforts. Thank you! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p>I wonder if "some disconnects" includes failing? I appreciate the official word, but the languaging is so vague it deflects responsibility. I mean if you really think something needs fixing, there's no harm in saying so. It leaves me concerned about the integrity of the rest of the rules.</p><p></p><p>Also, from reading Keith Baker's blog, something popped out at me:</p><p></p><p>Come on, that is just fallacious not to mention contrary to 4e's design goals. </p><p></p><p>I've been noticing little comments tby designers hat suggest to me there was a lack of cohesiveness to the design team. It seems like there were either competing goals, folks who didn't agree with the goals of the new edition, or folks who didn't understand the goals. </p><p></p><p>I'm looking forward to WotC's official explanation of how the system ended up so fubared, but my faith in the playtesting process of WotC and the finished 4e product has taken a beating.</p><p></p><p>On the plus side, I'm more confident than ever in the inventiveness and rigor of ENWorlders! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Quickleaf, post: 4298700, member: 20323"] Hey, I want to give a shout out to Stalker and all of you who have been working diligently to understand the broken mechanics of skill challenges and to create a working solution for this fun part of the game. I think Mike Mearls comment came because of your efforts. Thank you! :) I wonder if "some disconnects" includes failing? I appreciate the official word, but the languaging is so vague it deflects responsibility. I mean if you really think something needs fixing, there's no harm in saying so. It leaves me concerned about the integrity of the rest of the rules. Also, from reading Keith Baker's blog, something popped out at me: Come on, that is just fallacious not to mention contrary to 4e's design goals. I've been noticing little comments tby designers hat suggest to me there was a lack of cohesiveness to the design team. It seems like there were either competing goals, folks who didn't agree with the goals of the new edition, or folks who didn't understand the goals. I'm looking forward to WotC's official explanation of how the system ended up so fubared, but my faith in the playtesting process of WotC and the finished 4e product has taken a beating. On the plus side, I'm more confident than ever in the inventiveness and rigor of ENWorlders! :D :cool: [/QUOTE]
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