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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 7470720" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>From Gygax's DMG, p 21:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">Consider also that each and every Dungeon Master worthy of that title is continually at work expanding his or her campaign milieu. The game is not merely a meaningless dungeon and an urban base around which is plopped the dreaded wilderness. Each of you must design a world, piece by piece, as if a jigsaw puzzle were being hand crafted, and each new section must fit perfectly the pattern of the other pieces. Faced with such a task all of us need all of the aid and assistance we can get. Without such help the sheer magnitude of the task would force most of us to throw up our hands in despair.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">By having a basis to work from, and a well-developed body of work to draw upon, at least part of this task is handled for us. When history, folk-lore, myth, fable and fiction can be incorporated or used as reference for the campaign, the magnitude of the effort required is reduced by several degrees. Even actual sciences can be used - geography, chemistry, physics, and so forth.</p><p></p><p><em>Can be used</em> does not mean, nor imply, <em>is the assumed baseline</em>. It is put in the same category as folklore, myth, fable and fiction.</p><p></p><p>If moons orbit planets in the vacuum of space, then no horse is flying up to them, is it?</p><p></p><p>Phlogiston theorists new that fire required fuel. But they thought that combustion meant that something (phlogiston) was being driven out of the burning substance, rather than something (oxygen) being bonded with it.</p><p></p><p>Given that, in D&D, the elements are air, earth, fire and water then it seems highly unlikely that the atmosphere is composed of oxygen, nitrogen, argon, CO2, etc - as opposed to <em>elemental air</em>. And given that <em>fire</em> is an element, it seems highly unlikely that combustion is a chemcial reaction of the sort it is on earth, as opposed to a process of driving the <em>elemental fire</em> out of substances.</p><p></p><p>Of is the nsaming of the elements as elements a misnomer like the name of Cure Light Wounds?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 7470720, member: 42582"] From Gygax's DMG, p 21: [indent]Consider also that each and every Dungeon Master worthy of that title is continually at work expanding his or her campaign milieu. The game is not merely a meaningless dungeon and an urban base around which is plopped the dreaded wilderness. Each of you must design a world, piece by piece, as if a jigsaw puzzle were being hand crafted, and each new section must fit perfectly the pattern of the other pieces. Faced with such a task all of us need all of the aid and assistance we can get. Without such help the sheer magnitude of the task would force most of us to throw up our hands in despair. By having a basis to work from, and a well-developed body of work to draw upon, at least part of this task is handled for us. When history, folk-lore, myth, fable and fiction can be incorporated or used as reference for the campaign, the magnitude of the effort required is reduced by several degrees. Even actual sciences can be used - geography, chemistry, physics, and so forth.[/indent] [I]Can be used[/I] does not mean, nor imply, [I]is the assumed baseline[/I]. It is put in the same category as folklore, myth, fable and fiction. If moons orbit planets in the vacuum of space, then no horse is flying up to them, is it? Phlogiston theorists new that fire required fuel. But they thought that combustion meant that something (phlogiston) was being driven out of the burning substance, rather than something (oxygen) being bonded with it. Given that, in D&D, the elements are air, earth, fire and water then it seems highly unlikely that the atmosphere is composed of oxygen, nitrogen, argon, CO2, etc - as opposed to [I]elemental air[/I]. And given that [I]fire[/I] is an element, it seems highly unlikely that combustion is a chemcial reaction of the sort it is on earth, as opposed to a process of driving the [I]elemental fire[/I] out of substances. Of is the nsaming of the elements as elements a misnomer like the name of Cure Light Wounds? [/QUOTE]
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