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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7470930" data-attributes="member: 23751">A horse(or anything else) can't fly to the moon.  He gives that as an alternative that a DM can make up, which means that the baseline is that you can't do it.  Nobody is arguing that you can't add something magical or different.  Only that the game approximates the sciences.Another Red Herring?!?!  A made up substance that is campaign specific does not prove you correct.He gives actual elements in the game.  The elemental planes are not the actual elements that all things are made up from.  He gives us gold, iron, platinum, copper, carbon, sulfur, phosphorus, chlorine, silver, zinc, mercury, and lead.  Now, Gygax may have intended that the physical elements be a part of "elemental earth" and the gaseous elements be a part of "elemental air," but the fact is, the elements from the real world exist there in an approximation of the real world sciences that use them.See above.  Gygax names them properly just fine.P.S. Gravity cannot be reversed by the spell if it doesn't exist in the first place.P.P.S. Molecular Agitation explicitly says that it affects the molecules of an item.P.P.P.S. the list of herbs and such is incredibly detailed in real world herbs.  He then adds fantasy plants to them, making D&D botany an approximation of the real world's.P.P.P.P.S. He also lists real world gambling games.If you can't see by now that Gygax drew from the real world as a baseline on top of which he built his fantasy components, I really don't know what else to tell you.</blockquote>

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