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<blockquote data-quote="Kobold Boots" data-source="post: 7471725" data-attributes="member: 92239">I'm not intending to start a lengthy discussion about math and truth.&nbsp; But since you're expressing your opinion, I'm expressing things I've been taught over the years by folks that thought they were math and english professors.- Math does not exist without sentient thought.&nbsp; It's a language.&nbsp; Don't confuse the nature of reality with the math that models it.&nbsp; Two entirely different things.&nbsp; - Math is not truth.&nbsp; In order for truth to exist as a function, fallacy needs to exist.&nbsp; This is not the same thing as correct vs. incorrect.&nbsp; Something can be incorrect without being a fallacy.&nbsp; The difference is intention and the universe does not intend to lie to anyone.&nbsp; It's good marketing for math and science to be in the &quot;truth&quot; camp but it's really just a way for us to not be in the dark and model our understanding of the world around us.&nbsp; The moment science becomes &quot;truth&quot; we will have nothing left to learn.- Philosophy is great, but it's absolute garbage.&nbsp; The minute someone goes &quot;philosophy&quot; on you, you know they haven't got a leg to stand on.&nbsp; There's a reason why math and science research papers are usually less than 20 pages and liberal arts papers are usually hundreds of pages long.&nbsp; More words = nonsense being passed as fact.(edited due to filtered language)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kobold Boots, post: 7471725, member: 92239"] I'm not intending to start a lengthy discussion about math and truth. But since you're expressing your opinion, I'm expressing things I've been taught over the years by folks that thought they were math and english professors. - Math does not exist without sentient thought. It's a language. Don't confuse the nature of reality with the math that models it. Two entirely different things. - Math is not truth. In order for truth to exist as a function, fallacy needs to exist. This is not the same thing as correct vs. incorrect. Something can be incorrect without being a fallacy. The difference is intention and the universe does not intend to lie to anyone. It's good marketing for math and science to be in the "truth" camp but it's really just a way for us to not be in the dark and model our understanding of the world around us. The moment science becomes "truth" we will have nothing left to learn. - Philosophy is great, but it's absolute garbage. The minute someone goes "philosophy" on you, you know they haven't got a leg to stand on. There's a reason why math and science research papers are usually less than 20 pages and liberal arts papers are usually hundreds of pages long. More words = nonsense being passed as fact. (edited due to filtered language) [/QUOTE]

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