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<blockquote data-quote="TheCosmicKid" data-source="post: 7474120" data-attributes="member: 6683613">It can be, if the method used to make predictions is the scientific one. Why not? Like you say a little later, science is a tool that can be used for boring crap.When it suffices. When it works.I didn't say it was. I said it was the factor by which the data you're obtaining are massaged.If the weighting is in response to prior election results, in what sense is it subjective? If I adjust the gravitational constant of my physical model in response to experiment results, is that subjective?Are you saying that science is always confident and precise? I think you know better, but that really sounds like the argument you're making here.You're doing nothing here but contradicting me, so I don't know what else to do but contradict you right back. Current events are absolutely within the domain of the historian, because the historical processes that historians study are not confined to the past and do not suddenly cease to exist at the present. When a historian of, say, labor relations comments on a contemporary labor dispute, that's not like a chemist commenting on philosophy - it's like a chemist commenting on more chemistry.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TheCosmicKid, post: 7474120, member: 6683613"] It can be, if the method used to make predictions is the scientific one. Why not? Like you say a little later, science is a tool that can be used for boring crap. When it suffices. When it [I]works[/i]. I didn't say it was. I said it was the factor by which the data you're obtaining are massaged. If the weighting is in response to prior election results, in what sense is it subjective? If I adjust the gravitational constant of my physical model in response to experiment results, is [I]that[/I] subjective? Are you saying that science is always confident and precise? I think you know better, but that really sounds like the argument you're making here. You're doing nothing here but contradicting me, so I don't know what else to do but contradict you right back. Current events are absolutely within the domain of the historian, because the historical processes that historians study are not confined to the past and do not suddenly cease to exist at the present. When a historian of, say, labor relations comments on a contemporary labor dispute, that's not like a chemist commenting on philosophy - it's like a chemist commenting on [I]more chemistry[/I]. [/QUOTE]

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