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<blockquote data-quote="anest1s" data-source="post: 5631939" data-attributes="member: 94230">I think that RAW says that you have to be &lt;10ft away, so thats all. You can spot the joints of the box and see that there is something strange going on. Of course only if the box is visible from your position.Now most players will go next to it and search it. But thats by the rules, not needed.If I had to houserule something, I would give a bonus for touching what you search and using extra senses. But I wouldn't say that you just can't find something.Now if it is how you play it, its ok and maybe it makes sense. However it makes touch poison and some traps a bit more deadly, but thats on DMs hands.________________This doesn't mean that I think you should be able to say ''I search everything'' and find everything. But if I ''search everything'' I expect the DM to tell me that the room is huge, and I better narrow down what I search (for example I search for secret doors, I search for traps on that wall, on that lock, I search for hidden compartments in the chest etc etc).At this point I expect him though to tell me that ''a huge lock is keeping the chest shut''. Or else I will never suspect that there is a secret compartment inside the lock. But hell, why shouldn't I be able to check it from 10ft away <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="anest1s, post: 5631939, member: 94230"] I think that RAW says that you have to be <10ft away, so thats all. You can spot the joints of the box and see that there is something strange going on. Of course only if the box is visible from your position. Now most players will go next to it and search it. But thats by the rules, not needed. If I had to houserule something, I would give a bonus for touching what you search and using extra senses. But I wouldn't say that you just can't find something. Now if it is how you play it, its ok and maybe it makes sense. However it makes touch poison and some traps a bit more deadly, but thats on DMs hands. ________________ This doesn't mean that I think you should be able to say ''I search everything'' and find everything. But if I ''search everything'' I expect the DM to tell me that the room is huge, and I better narrow down what I search (for example I search for secret doors, I search for traps on that wall, on that lock, I search for hidden compartments in the chest etc etc). At this point I expect him though to tell me that ''a [B]huge [/B]lock is keeping the chest shut''. Or else I will never suspect that there is a secret compartment inside the lock. But hell, why shouldn't I be able to check it from 10ft away :p [/QUOTE]

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