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<blockquote data-quote="Cor_Malek" data-source="post: 5336084" data-attributes="member: 91608"><p>1. Not in RPG's, they don't. Do you suggest making druids lose they abilities if they are resurrected or even raised?</p><p></p><p>2. Let's allow this race-class only for players that were reanimated at least once then. Post-ALS players <em>obviously</em> count as unnatural and can play vampire druids. But what about BLS? Technically, they were dead by most definitions of the word ever conceived... But their coming back lacked the <em>spark</em>, if you know what I mean. And it's even called only "resuscitation"...</p><p></p><p>3. "<em>Ah! But nowadays, death is defined by stop of brain, not heart and respiratory function! And no natural being can "come back to life" with it's brain dead.</em>"</p><p>Far-fetched as this argument is (nature is full of things with<strong>out</strong> brains) it is also incorrect. Meet the tree <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weta" target="_blank">Weta</a>. In case it's not mentioned in this article - and you have to read more on them - this is what I mean: while their haemolymph (insects have 2-for-1! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />) prevents their body cells from being irreversibly damaged down to -10 Celsius - their brain dies. And they just carry on without it, like every other... howdyacallit? Zombie.</p><p></p><p>edit: As for undead creatures, how about lungfish then? While they're mainly known for merely extremely long hybernation, there's at least one, very well documented case, when container filled with mud and one lungfish specimen was kinda lost between labs. A lot of paperwork tracking (it was being shipped from lab to lab) and six months later, the container was finally pried open. Inside it was their lungfish, alas inside shell of now hardened mud (dry now, so not technically <em>mud</em>... you know what I mean).</p><p>They added water and it came back to life.</p><p></p><p>Alas, as they did not vivisect/dissect it at that state, it is unconfirmed if it was functionally dead or if it achieved some ascended level of hibernation. And as this species is not exactly common - it's practically impossible to repeat this as experimental proof. It's hard to get one for study, so "take a good sample of specimens, and attempt to kill them, see what happens" is not the title that would sweep the grants ;-).</p><p></p><p>edit2:</p><p>Well, D'uh!? Personally, I prefer term rationalization, but whatever.<strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>All of this</strong> is made up in order to have some fun. Someone wanted to cast spells so he thought of wizards. Right now, as system becomes more and more complex and it can express even more of what we can imagine (yay!) someone wants to make a vampire druid. He didn't go the lazy way and just make it like some game combo, he wanted to make it believable at some level. He asked as for ideas for this concept, and apparently a lot of people (myself included) thought it was a fun idea, and quite easily explained by what we know about world of nature.</p><p>I hate to break it, but most RPG worlds aren't real. Cheap justification (I still prefer my term) is all there is to it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cor_Malek, post: 5336084, member: 91608"] 1. Not in RPG's, they don't. Do you suggest making druids lose they abilities if they are resurrected or even raised? 2. Let's allow this race-class only for players that were reanimated at least once then. Post-ALS players [I]obviously[/I] count as unnatural and can play vampire druids. But what about BLS? Technically, they were dead by most definitions of the word ever conceived... But their coming back lacked the [I]spark[/I], if you know what I mean. And it's even called only "resuscitation"... 3. "[I]Ah! But nowadays, death is defined by stop of brain, not heart and respiratory function! And no natural being can "come back to life" with it's brain dead.[/I]" Far-fetched as this argument is (nature is full of things with[B]out[/B] brains) it is also incorrect. Meet the tree [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weta"]Weta[/URL]. In case it's not mentioned in this article - and you have to read more on them - this is what I mean: while their haemolymph (insects have 2-for-1! :P) prevents their body cells from being irreversibly damaged down to -10 Celsius - their brain dies. And they just carry on without it, like every other... howdyacallit? Zombie. edit: As for undead creatures, how about lungfish then? While they're mainly known for merely extremely long hybernation, there's at least one, very well documented case, when container filled with mud and one lungfish specimen was kinda lost between labs. A lot of paperwork tracking (it was being shipped from lab to lab) and six months later, the container was finally pried open. Inside it was their lungfish, alas inside shell of now hardened mud (dry now, so not technically [I]mud[/I]... you know what I mean). They added water and it came back to life. Alas, as they did not vivisect/dissect it at that state, it is unconfirmed if it was functionally dead or if it achieved some ascended level of hibernation. And as this species is not exactly common - it's practically impossible to repeat this as experimental proof. It's hard to get one for study, so "take a good sample of specimens, and attempt to kill them, see what happens" is not the title that would sweep the grants ;-). edit2: Well, D'uh!? Personally, I prefer term rationalization, but whatever.[B] All of this[/B] is made up in order to have some fun. Someone wanted to cast spells so he thought of wizards. Right now, as system becomes more and more complex and it can express even more of what we can imagine (yay!) someone wants to make a vampire druid. He didn't go the lazy way and just make it like some game combo, he wanted to make it believable at some level. He asked as for ideas for this concept, and apparently a lot of people (myself included) thought it was a fun idea, and quite easily explained by what we know about world of nature. I hate to break it, but most RPG worlds aren't real. Cheap justification (I still prefer my term) is all there is to it. [/QUOTE]
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