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<blockquote data-quote="klofft" data-source="post: 3455222" data-attributes="member: 40326"><p>TS, I basically feel the same way, as I have had brief discussions here before about the alignment of the Far Realm. The D&D alignment RAW have an objective moral universe as their foundation. To say that there is another "objective" reality beyond this one is a logical fallacy. IMO, if the Far Realm denizens are not broadly defineable as "evil" in the same way as fiends are, even if their motives and methods differ widely, they can't work in an alignment system (hence the suggestion of some that the Far Realm be mechanically "beyond alignment," which doesn't work for me personally.)</p><p></p><p>IMC, the Far Realm is at the "bottom" of the lower planes, formed of the metaphysical detritus, if you will, of acts of cosmic evil in the universe. From my campaign notes (note that Nerull is basically a "Satan" figure in my cosmology):</p><p></p><p>Something else has occurred on the Lower Outer Planes. As intelligent beings in the universe continue to choose their own will over the will of Providence, a sort of cosmic backlash, a metaphysical cancer, has formed and continues to grow, bubbling up from the darkest places of the universe. This cancer is certainly intelligent, and its malevolence extends even to the forces of “evil” (more traditionally understood). It seems to be rooted primarily in the Abyss, but it is encountered on other planes as well, and has seeped onto the material plane in places. Some spirits (gods) have taken stewardship of this phenomenon and have promoted it. New intelligent beings have appeared in its wake, shaped by these gods. Other intelligent beings worship it. Not recognizing the existential disorder that his will has cost the universe, Nerull has also ultimately accepted this damage as his own. While further development of this idea may be necessary in the future, this is a basic explanation for elements of the “Far Realm” as they turn up in published materials, as well as the cosmic evil of the obyriths in the Abyss. </p><p></p><p>This works for me.</p><p>C</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klofft, post: 3455222, member: 40326"] TS, I basically feel the same way, as I have had brief discussions here before about the alignment of the Far Realm. The D&D alignment RAW have an objective moral universe as their foundation. To say that there is another "objective" reality beyond this one is a logical fallacy. IMO, if the Far Realm denizens are not broadly defineable as "evil" in the same way as fiends are, even if their motives and methods differ widely, they can't work in an alignment system (hence the suggestion of some that the Far Realm be mechanically "beyond alignment," which doesn't work for me personally.) IMC, the Far Realm is at the "bottom" of the lower planes, formed of the metaphysical detritus, if you will, of acts of cosmic evil in the universe. From my campaign notes (note that Nerull is basically a "Satan" figure in my cosmology): Something else has occurred on the Lower Outer Planes. As intelligent beings in the universe continue to choose their own will over the will of Providence, a sort of cosmic backlash, a metaphysical cancer, has formed and continues to grow, bubbling up from the darkest places of the universe. This cancer is certainly intelligent, and its malevolence extends even to the forces of “evil” (more traditionally understood). It seems to be rooted primarily in the Abyss, but it is encountered on other planes as well, and has seeped onto the material plane in places. Some spirits (gods) have taken stewardship of this phenomenon and have promoted it. New intelligent beings have appeared in its wake, shaped by these gods. Other intelligent beings worship it. Not recognizing the existential disorder that his will has cost the universe, Nerull has also ultimately accepted this damage as his own. While further development of this idea may be necessary in the future, this is a basic explanation for elements of the “Far Realm” as they turn up in published materials, as well as the cosmic evil of the obyriths in the Abyss. This works for me. C [/QUOTE]
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