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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3458458" data-attributes="member: 22779">Certainly &quot;I don't care&quot; = Neutral.&nbsp; However, neutral also means that you lack any strong feelings in any direction.&nbsp; You will generally go along with society's norms simply because that's easier than going against them.The problem is, you can't say that Far Realms creatures don't care.&nbsp; That's ascribing motive (or lack thereof).&nbsp; We cannot know if they care or not.&nbsp; We cannot know if they don't notice us or they really like giving people tentacles.&nbsp; That's the whole point of being unknowable.&nbsp; So, since we cannot actually fathom their motives, we can only look at their actions.&nbsp; Their actions are certainly evil - wantonly destructive, complete disregard for life, inflicts pain on others, etc. etc.&nbsp; People keep bringing up animals.&nbsp; That doesn't equate though.&nbsp; For one, we know the motivations of animals.&nbsp; They want to eat and/or protect their territory.&nbsp; Plus, since the animals cannot conceive of their actions, they get a free pass.&nbsp; Anything mindless also gets a free pass.&nbsp; The same goes for Far Realms beings.&nbsp; The FR oozes are neutral.&nbsp; They don't have any intelligence, thus they are neutral as per RAW.However, intelligent Far Realms creatures are neither animals nor mindless, thus, by RAW they have an alignment.&nbsp; Since we cannot know their motives, we can only judge by their actions.&nbsp; Thus, I argue that they are evil.Now this I entirely agree with.&nbsp; I am in no way trying to pass any sort of real world ethical judgment upon Far Realms creatures.&nbsp; I am speaking in a pure game mechanics.&nbsp; Honestly, I can see the argument for making them neutral.&nbsp; I understand.&nbsp; And, I mostly agree.&nbsp; However, from a mechanical POV, they're pretty clearly evil.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 3458458, member: 22779"] Certainly "I don't care" = Neutral. However, neutral also means that you lack any strong feelings in any direction. You will generally go along with society's norms simply because that's easier than going against them. The problem is, you can't say that Far Realms creatures don't care. That's ascribing motive (or lack thereof). We cannot know if they care or not. We cannot know if they don't notice us or they really like giving people tentacles. That's the whole point of being unknowable. So, since we cannot actually fathom their motives, we can only look at their actions. Their actions are certainly evil - wantonly destructive, complete disregard for life, inflicts pain on others, etc. etc. People keep bringing up animals. That doesn't equate though. For one, we know the motivations of animals. They want to eat and/or protect their territory. Plus, since the animals cannot conceive of their actions, they get a free pass. Anything mindless also gets a free pass. The same goes for Far Realms beings. The FR oozes are neutral. They don't have any intelligence, thus they are neutral as per RAW. However, intelligent Far Realms creatures are neither animals nor mindless, thus, [u]by RAW[/u] they have an alignment. Since we cannot know their motives, we can only judge by their actions. Thus, I argue that they are evil. Now this I entirely agree with. I am in no way trying to pass any sort of real world ethical judgment upon Far Realms creatures. I am speaking in a pure game mechanics. Honestly, I can see the argument for making them neutral. I understand. And, I mostly agree. However, from a mechanical POV, they're pretty clearly evil. [/QUOTE]

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