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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 305118" data-attributes="member: 2011">Yes, but we are not talking about an old western with only two combatants, both of whom are intently studying each other.We are talking about initiative where some of the characters actually reacting might not even see the first guy who starts it all. Some of these guys might be talking, etc.I tend to run it this way. The character who declared he is going first does go first. Typically, a player in our group (not his character) says something like "Enough of this, I attack him". Although everyone is ready for combat, he goes first since he decided to initiate it all. Anyone can do this since both sides are just standing around waiting. Just like in most of real life (since most of real life is nothing like an old western).Everyone else rolls initiative, he just goes first. Nobody is flatfooted since everyone is ready.This seems to be the easiest system to handle both common sense and initiative.I dislike nonsensical things like:A and B on one team. C on the other. A decides to attack. C sees A starting to attack, so he starts to attack. B sees C starting to attack, so he attacks first. Even though B was standing slightly in front of A and couldn't see him make the first move, B actually gets to make the first move.I prefer, A starts to attack, everyone sees him (for the most part) doing this. At this point, it becomes like an old western. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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