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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 4246754" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Well, this boils down to something neither of us can prove conclusively. However, I would point out that there are 150 000 RPGA gamers out there that do not in the slightest undertake any sort of "training period". So, unlike you, I can speak for more than just my group. </p><p></p><p>So, basically, you are complaining because the new rules don't line up with your house rules, despite the fact that you have no evidence that anyone other than your circle of friends uses those house rules. And, based on that, you've decided that the new rules suck.</p><p></p><p>I find it strange that so many people equate "I don't like this" with "This is bad".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And that's perfectly legitimate. As such, I would say that 4e is likely not for you. And that's fine. There's nothing, absolutely nothing wrong with that. But, again, just because you cannot come up with a plausible explanation that satsifies your sense of verisimilitude, does not make the rules bad or faulty. Just not a good fit for you.</p><p></p><p>Again, you are simply trying to claim that your personal preferences are somehow the key issue. They are only key for you and your group. The fact that several people in this thread alone have come up with explanations that work for them shows that it can be done. Maybe it can't be done for you, but, in the end, that's pretty irrelevant. I don't assume a game is being designed with me in mind. I don't have a big bag of expectations that must be fufilled. Much better in my mind to start from a position of open mindedness and judge the game based on itself, not on what I think it should be.</p><p></p><p>Heck, 99% of the edition wars on this board alone would die an instant death if people would just remember that fact.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 4246754, member: 22779"] Well, this boils down to something neither of us can prove conclusively. However, I would point out that there are 150 000 RPGA gamers out there that do not in the slightest undertake any sort of "training period". So, unlike you, I can speak for more than just my group. So, basically, you are complaining because the new rules don't line up with your house rules, despite the fact that you have no evidence that anyone other than your circle of friends uses those house rules. And, based on that, you've decided that the new rules suck. I find it strange that so many people equate "I don't like this" with "This is bad". And that's perfectly legitimate. As such, I would say that 4e is likely not for you. And that's fine. There's nothing, absolutely nothing wrong with that. But, again, just because you cannot come up with a plausible explanation that satsifies your sense of verisimilitude, does not make the rules bad or faulty. Just not a good fit for you. Again, you are simply trying to claim that your personal preferences are somehow the key issue. They are only key for you and your group. The fact that several people in this thread alone have come up with explanations that work for them shows that it can be done. Maybe it can't be done for you, but, in the end, that's pretty irrelevant. I don't assume a game is being designed with me in mind. I don't have a big bag of expectations that must be fufilled. Much better in my mind to start from a position of open mindedness and judge the game based on itself, not on what I think it should be. Heck, 99% of the edition wars on this board alone would die an instant death if people would just remember that fact. [/QUOTE]
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