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Message: <blockquote data-quote="efreund" data-source="post: 9556456" data-attributes="member: 6799797">I'm having a bit of trouble understanding some of the broad details of the Demonocracy.First off: where are they from?I always assumed Baator (The Nine Hells).We use terms like "Golden Legion" to describe them, which has a Lawful feel to it.  And when you visit Egalitrix in adv12, it has a strongly Lawful vibe.  You even fight Devils there, which are natives of the Hells.However, there's some evidence they're from The Abyss.The word "demon" is an Abyssal term.  In the Drakr section AiZ, it talks of the "Abyssal Faith" of the Demonocracy.  Also in AiZ, in the Travel Between Worlds section, it talks about a "demon lord hopes to use the portal to make his way to the realm of his birth, a chaotic maelstrom called The Tanari Abyss".I feel like the Demonocracy shifted from Infernal to Abyssal between the original campaign and AiZ.  Help me make sense of this?Secondly: what was the role of Egal the Shimmering?I gather that he likely never set foot on Lanjyr.  But was the Demonocracy loyal to him?  Or at least wholly descended from his Golden Legion?  Or is he merely the ancestor of a faction of the Demonocracy?Presumedly, he's still alive out in Baator, yes?  What do you envision is his rank and role there?Would it be safe to envision that he's a significant general under Mammon, and has a his, er, family estate in Jangling Hiter?Finally, why was Egal (or his lieutenants) interested in Lanjyr originally?  The best I can find is that the world was (originally) located at a planar crossroads, and made a convenient staging ground to plunder other worlds.Third: how did the Demonocracy 'arise'?I can't find a date for when Toteth Topec enacted the planar ban (only that it was "an untold amount of time later" that King Boyle founded Risur in 1200 BOV).  Based on that, I'm going to eyeball it at around 2000 BOV.  Then the Demonocracy 'arises' in 1117 BOV.First off: why that specific year?  It's the only non-round year in the entire ZG timeline.  I'm guessing it's a cypher of some sort, or has some other symbolic meaning.What does 'arise' mean here?  Do I take in the naturalistic way, of "that's when the troops got their act together and got a-conquering", or it is something a bit more mystical/supernatural?What were the Demons doing in those thousand-or-so years between the ban and the founding their "-ocracy"?Finally: where do Demons go when they die?I know that with the planar ban in place, their evil cannot return to the Hells/Abyss when they are destroyed.  I know that 'eventually' they reform in the Waking (which is why the Clergy squirrels away Demonic artifacts in their storehouses).  My question is: what role does the Bleak Gate play in this process?  I am correct that the Bleak Gate is not involved?  That the Bleak is only for mortals who die?Thank you!I'm working on a writing up a Drakr-based campaign, and I'm playing a lot with the Demonocracy (and fleshing it out a lot more), but I want my extra content to align with the official material.</blockquote>

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