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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 7738107" data-attributes="member: 6779196">I see what you mean now, thank you for clarifying.The thing is, I don’t think the analogy makes sense. Tyrion is scorned in the fiction and beloved in real life. Gnomes are scorned in real life. And the root of Tyrion’s fictional scorn is his size and appearance, whereas the root of Gnomes’ real life scorn is their lack of coherent identity in the fiction and tonal mismatch with heroic fantasy. I do agree with your argument that a Gnome character written as well as Tyrion would go a long way to redeeming Gnomes as a race in the eyes of the fans, but I don’t think that comparing them to Tyrion actually supports your argument.&nbsp; What Gnomes need of they are ever to be taken seriously is two things: to ditch the comic relief aspect, and to have a racial identity that is unique to Gnomes, rather than just being shorter dwarves or more magical halflings. A well written example character would certainly help with those goals, but yoi could just as easily say that they need a character like Jorah Mormont, or like Aragorn, or hell, Luke Skywalker. The important thing is that they need a well-written fictional example of how gnomes could be cool, and that example really wouldn’t look anything like Tyrion Lannister except in the sense that they’re short. The fictional prejudices that Tyrion overxomes are completely different from either the fictional predjudices Gnomes face or the real-life barriers to their popularity.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 7738107, member: 6779196"] I see what you mean now, thank you for clarifying. The thing is, I don’t think the analogy makes sense. Tyrion is scorned in the fiction and beloved in real life. Gnomes are scorned in real life. And the root of Tyrion’s fictional scorn is his size and appearance, whereas the root of Gnomes’ real life scorn is their lack of coherent identity in the fiction and tonal mismatch with heroic fantasy. I do agree with your argument that a Gnome character written as well as Tyrion would go a long way to redeeming Gnomes as a race in the eyes of the fans, but I don’t think that comparing them to Tyrion actually supports your argument. What Gnomes need of they are ever to be taken seriously is two things: to ditch the comic relief aspect, and to have a racial identity that is unique to Gnomes, rather than just being shorter dwarves or more magical halflings. A well written example character would certainly help with those goals, but yoi could just as easily say that they need a character like Jorah Mormont, or like Aragorn, or hell, Luke Skywalker. The important thing is that they need a well-written fictional example of how gnomes could be cool, and that example really wouldn’t look anything like Tyrion Lannister except in the sense that they’re short. The fictional prejudices that Tyrion overxomes are completely different from either the fictional predjudices Gnomes face or the real-life barriers to their popularity. [/QUOTE]

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