A few interesting, if not amusing, articles about dnd....

[Abel Kane]

Just to balance things out, here's a really great link to a page on Religion and Roleplaying by James Wyatt (Yes, THAT James Wyatt).

Unlike James, I was never officially ordained, but I did spend 5 years in theological college in Australia and then four years in local ministry for the Presbyterian Church of Australia - doing everything but weddings and communion (both of which require ordination).

Unlike James, I find it very easy to insert aspects of theology and philospohy into my games, but then, I'm not writing source material.

Check it out - it's a good balance against the Shnoebelian and Chickantian spew that we've seen so far!

http://aquela.com/roleplaying/r&r/index.html

David

 

[Arthur Tealeaf]

Chick and his groupies would say, "No, Christians should not think, they should follow blindly. The word of God is always right. The Bible is always right. Everything that counters the Bible is wrong."

You are right! Another thing that bothers me ALOT is this:

Something many christians don't understand is that GOD DID NOT WRITE THE BIBLE! Disciples did, ordinary pople did. Maybe someone got the order to copy it and added some cool flavor of their own. THe point is, it is very unlikely that god really wanted us to follow every sentence in the bible like mad slaves.

Bah...

Myself, I'm a christian (thats my name too... ), but I don't support many of the aspects of christianity in the general society. I like to use my head instead of following blindly. I've worked out many things for myself and found my own way of interpreting gods word, and I stick with that.

The thing that bothers me most about is something I've talked to many ministers about and they all mean the same thing: If you are the worst person in the world, you kill, you rape, you torture, you do all that is wrong. If you then devote yourself truly to god right before you die he will salvage you and forgive you and send you to heaven. But if you are the best person in the world--you help everyone, save lifes and sacrifice yoursel for someone else. If you have grown up with another religion and don't embrace god (because that's what you've been taught), you BURN IN HELLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What kind of god does something like that? Thats not a caring god, thats a dictator! Obey me or BURN! Doesn't matter what you do, just OBEY ME!

Also, I confronted them about what happens when someone die without ever hearing about christianity at all? If you never had the slightest chance to be a christian, do you burn in hell?

One had a very innovative answer: He meant you get the choice. Almost like two doors--one leads to suffering and hell, another leads to heaven itself. Then you get a choice: Embrace me and go to heaven... or BURN! In my opinion, god should have revarded those with such faith to their own god that they chose hell, but that doesn't matter.

This is why I think for my self and believe every person has their own way to reach god, or whatever it is that is up there (or down there...). I believe every religion is just a different way of reaching the same goal, and if god is no nice he would reward anyone for devotion to anything, if just they are committed.

Ramble, ramble, ramble.

Bla, Bla, Bla.

Great!

 

[Pielorinho]

You guys are gonna get this thread closed for sure. Aren't there enough places to bash Christians?

For some equal-opportunity here, here's a joke that will only make sense to a tiny group of neopagans out there:

Q. How many Alexandrians does it take to change a light bulb?
A. I dunno -- how many Gardnerians does it take?

Daniel

 

[Lichtenhart]

May I ask a simple question?

I live in Italy, which is one of the most catholic countries in the world, and I think a phrase like "D&D sends you to hell" here would be considered pure madness. I am a gamer and a catechist, and I've never had any problem, I don't feel in contradiction. I also think all the priests I know would agree with Arthur Tealeaf, and not with the ministers he met. When I read 7 pages of a thread like this I always remain a little astonished.

Now the question is: am I really lucky, awfully naive, or things are different here in Europe?

 

[Corporate Dog]

To Jack Chick's credit, I couldn't find anything anti-semetic on his site. Did I miss something, or is this guy the only religious nutcase out there that doesn't think that we Jews control the weather?

Chick seems to actually LIKE the Jews, though he does have a funny way of showing it:

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0014/0014_01.asp

Regards,
Corporate Dog