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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MNblockhead" data-source="post: 7010622" data-attributes="member: 6796661">Nothing odd or wrong with those call. Personally, in my game, I would have allowed the first, but wouldn't have allowed the second. Why not the second, well, I know a lot about snakes, used to tame and show them to groups at a museum and a nature center. You are not going to charm them with music. The whole snake charmer thing has to do with the movement of the pipe, one on one and at fairly close distance, and nothing to do with the music which the snake can't really "hear" unless you are so loud you are causing vibrations through the ground that they pick up through their jaws. Snakes are deaf to sound that travels through the air. I don't force reality in my games, but it makes for a useful reference point in making judgment calls. If, however, it a magic effect like from a bard or spell that calms or has some other non-charm effect, I would allow it.  Personally, having seen hibernaculums, I really don't see how you would apply animal handling to a swarm of snakes. They don't herd. Probably the best way to calm a pit of snakes is some cold-dealing spell. Make it cold enough that they are lethargic. But again, as DM, it it your game, your world. Maybe snakes have ears and are lovers of music in your world. In a world with naga and yuan-ti, why not?</blockquote>