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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 356891" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>To me, the Sage has no more meaning than you (i.e. just another person with their opinion).</p><p></p><p>He no longer even works at WotC and although his opinion held weight there when he did, it was in reality the Rules Committee that made the official decisions.</p><p></p><p>And, quite frankly, if they put this into the FAQ, that is the official rules and that is how I will run it unless my players ask for a house rule on it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Semantics.</p><p></p><p>Area Effect spells target locations. Rays target a creature or object.</p><p></p><p>A Ray is identical to any ranged missile attack for example. It does not affect an area, it goes through an area. Just because some object happens to get in the way of the spell does not mean that you did not target it at a single opponent.</p><p></p><p>Just like Chained Lightning. It does not affect an area, it goes through an area. Opps. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Your entire argument precludes the only spell example we have of the exact same effect.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, that's a tough one isn't it?</p><p></p><p>Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.</p><p></p><p>There is no reasonable interpretation that should kick out Dispel Magic other than a very strict and literal one interpretation reading of the feat. On the other hand, a Targeted Dispel in reality is no different than a Hold Person. It is cast differently than an Area Dispel and the result is the same as any other targeted spell. You pick the target, you fire. Opps. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Ditto for Rays.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 356891, member: 2011"] To me, the Sage has no more meaning than you (i.e. just another person with their opinion). He no longer even works at WotC and although his opinion held weight there when he did, it was in reality the Rules Committee that made the official decisions. And, quite frankly, if they put this into the FAQ, that is the official rules and that is how I will run it unless my players ask for a house rule on it. Semantics. Area Effect spells target locations. Rays target a creature or object. A Ray is identical to any ranged missile attack for example. It does not affect an area, it goes through an area. Just because some object happens to get in the way of the spell does not mean that you did not target it at a single opponent. Just like Chained Lightning. It does not affect an area, it goes through an area. Opps. ;) Your entire argument precludes the only spell example we have of the exact same effect. Yeah, that's a tough one isn't it? Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. There is no reasonable interpretation that should kick out Dispel Magic other than a very strict and literal one interpretation reading of the feat. On the other hand, a Targeted Dispel in reality is no different than a Hold Person. It is cast differently than an Area Dispel and the result is the same as any other targeted spell. You pick the target, you fire. Opps. :) Ditto for Rays. [/QUOTE]
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