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<blockquote data-quote="Caliban" data-source="post: 356968" data-attributes="member: 284"><p>Exactly.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Read the PHB lately? Specifically the section on aiming and targetting spells? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ray doesn't specify a target. Target is a defined term in 3e. </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Exactly. They don't specify a single target. They specify that it can affect multiple targets. . </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If it allows more than one target, then it's not specifying a single target, now is it? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Magic Missile doesn't specify a single target, now does it? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>When you can prove that "specify a single target" actually means "specifies one or more targets" I might agree with you. Until then, it seems pretty clear to me. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If the feat only required that the spell "can be cast on a single target" then I might agree with you. However, it says that it must <strong>specify</strong> a single target. To me, the phrase"must specify" equivalent to "must require". I don't see how you can read it any other way and still have it make sense in that context.</p><p></p><p>Having a single target be a possibility is not nearly the same as requiring a single target. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Since you keep trying to ignore the fact that the says the spell must <strong>specify</strong> a single target, I think your interpretation is worse. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>[edit: reread the Dispel Magic spell and changed my mind]</p><p></p><p>It can be cast on more than one form. One form specifies a Target, another specifies Area. </p><p></p><p>If you cast it in the form that specifies a single target, it would seem to be a valid spell for Chaining. If you don't, it can't be chained. </p><p></p><p>Magic missile doesn't have more than one form of the spell. It's always creates the same number of missles (i.e. you can't choose to have it generate less missiles), and can always affect multiple targets. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>See above.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Caliban, post: 356968, member: 284"] Exactly. [b][/b] Read the PHB lately? Specifically the section on aiming and targetting spells? [b][/b] Ray doesn't specify a target. Target is a defined term in 3e. [b][/B] Exactly. They don't specify a single target. They specify that it can affect multiple targets. . [b][/b] If it allows more than one target, then it's not specifying a single target, now is it? [b][/b] Magic Missile doesn't specify a single target, now does it? [b][/b] When you can prove that "specify a single target" actually means "specifies one or more targets" I might agree with you. Until then, it seems pretty clear to me. [b][/b] If the feat only required that the spell "can be cast on a single target" then I might agree with you. However, it says that it must [b]specify[/b] a single target. To me, the phrase"must specify" equivalent to "must require". I don't see how you can read it any other way and still have it make sense in that context. Having a single target be a possibility is not nearly the same as requiring a single target. [b][/b] Since you keep trying to ignore the fact that the says the spell must [b]specify[/b] a single target, I think your interpretation is worse. [b][/b] [edit: reread the Dispel Magic spell and changed my mind] It can be cast on more than one form. One form specifies a Target, another specifies Area. If you cast it in the form that specifies a single target, it would seem to be a valid spell for Chaining. If you don't, it can't be chained. Magic missile doesn't have more than one form of the spell. It's always creates the same number of missles (i.e. you can't choose to have it generate less missiles), and can always affect multiple targets. [b][/B] See above. [/QUOTE]
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