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<blockquote data-quote="genshou" data-source="post: 2935271" data-attributes="member: 13164">I always thought that was just a goof on Ryan's part.&nbsp; It makes more sense to allow the Mage feats than not to.&nbsp; Let's see what he has to say about it, though.That's absolutely right.&nbsp; Just because a feat allows you to prepare a spell of higher MP cost than your MP limit, that doesn't mean the same restriction on signature spells is lifted.That's correct, but I believe the OP was referring to the Signature Ritual feat (Lyceian Arcana, pg. 149).&nbsp; Since the feat specifically states that the spell must be cast as a single-caster ritual successfully first, and that it is considered a signature spell but explicitly requires a two-round casting time, I would either disallow it or allow it with restrictions.When you first cast the ritual, it must have possessed the Quicken Spell enhancement for a non-signature spell, even though that quickening didn't have any effect on the time taken to cast the ritual.&nbsp; Thereafter as a signature ritual, it would still require the Quicken Spell cost for a non-signature spell.You forgot RuleMaster <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="genshou, post: 2935271, member: 13164"] I always thought that was just a goof on Ryan's part. It makes more sense to allow the Mage feats than not to. Let's see what he has to say about it, though. That's absolutely right. Just because a feat allows you to prepare a spell of higher MP cost than your MP limit, that doesn't mean the same restriction on signature spells is lifted. That's correct, but I believe the OP was referring to the Signature Ritual feat (Lyceian Arcana, pg. 149). Since the feat specifically states that the spell must be cast as a single-caster ritual successfully first, and that it is considered a signature spell but explicitly requires a two-round casting time, I would either disallow it or allow it with restrictions. When you first cast the ritual, it must have possessed the Quicken Spell enhancement for a non-signature spell, even though that quickening didn't have any effect on the time taken to cast the ritual. Thereafter as a signature ritual, it would still require the Quicken Spell cost for a non-signature spell. You forgot [B]RuleMaster[/B] ;) [/QUOTE]

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