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<blockquote data-quote="Moon_Goddess" data-source="post: 107798" data-attributes="member: 33">I've always worked under the basic assumetion that Sorcerers, bards and any other spontanious caster couldn't use the quicken spell feat, (Or at least it's useless to them)&nbsp; I got that idea from reading these boards, I assume everyone followed this rule.&nbsp;&nbsp; But where did we get this from.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Reading the PHB, I'm no longer so sure.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Spontainious Metamagic makes any spell with 1 action a full round action, or full round take another.&nbsp; &nbsp; Quicken makes any spell full round action or less a free action.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Example Fireball, casting time 1 actionApplying Quicken First casting time becomes free action and no longer affected by Spontainous Metamagic.Applying Spontainous Metamagic first fireball becomes full round action, then quicken drops this to free.Did I miss something or have I been assuming wrong all along?DarkvisionMy impression of Darkvision is based upon the picture of the mind flayer in the DMG.&nbsp;&nbsp; It shows an outline mearly the shape of the Mind Flayer.&nbsp;&nbsp; I liken it to Magical Radar&nbsp; &nbsp; This doesn't exactly seem to be the case in the description,&nbsp; So, did WOTC drop the ball on that one, and mess up the picture?&nbsp;&nbsp; Or can you really not read, or see other things without depth with Darkvision.Command(Seems like this is one of the most asked about spells)This came up in game, player had command cast on him, the command was &quot;Come&quot; He proceeded to carry out the command to the best of his ability waking in a straight line toward the caster, but he wanted to hand something to another player that he passed by on the way.&nbsp; &nbsp; DM ruled that not only must you carry out the command give but you can do NOTHING else for the duration.&nbsp;&nbsp; I disagree.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Moon_Goddess, post: 107798, member: 33"] I've always worked under the basic assumetion that Sorcerers, bards and any other spontanious caster couldn't use the quicken spell feat, (Or at least it's useless to them) I got that idea from reading these boards, I assume everyone followed this rule. But where did we get this from. Reading the PHB, I'm no longer so sure. Spontainious Metamagic makes any spell with 1 action a full round action, or full round take another. Quicken makes any spell full round action or less a free action. Example Fireball, casting time 1 action Applying Quicken First casting time becomes free action and no longer affected by Spontainous Metamagic. Applying Spontainous Metamagic first fireball becomes full round action, then quicken drops this to free. Did I miss something or have I been assuming wrong all along? Darkvision My impression of Darkvision is based upon the picture of the mind flayer in the DMG. It shows an outline mearly the shape of the Mind Flayer. I liken it to Magical Radar This doesn't exactly seem to be the case in the description, So, did WOTC drop the ball on that one, and mess up the picture? Or can you really not read, or see other things without depth with Darkvision. Command (Seems like this is one of the most asked about spells) This came up in game, player had command cast on him, the command was "Come" He proceeded to carry out the command to the best of his ability waking in a straight line toward the caster, but he wanted to hand something to another player that he passed by on the way. DM ruled that not only must you carry out the command give but you can do NOTHING else for the duration. I disagree. [/QUOTE]

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