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<blockquote data-quote="Shard O'Glase" data-source="post: 109096" data-attributes="member: 1134"><p>I'm sorry that just doesn't make sense as a reason.&nbsp; Following that line of reasoning, a sorcerer who metamagiced a spell with empower would spend a full round aciton applying a spontaineous metamagic first and then have to spend a standard action to cast the spell.&nbsp; Spontaneous metamagic and casting the spell are the same action wrapped up in that full round action.&nbsp; So by the written rules in the PH, it should only take a free action since it has a casting itme of 1 round or less.(even if it doesn't make much sense, to expand the time to then end up shortening it)&nbsp; Sure they have clarrified it in T&amp;B, and in comments but as it was written in the PH I think Rybaer has it right.&nbsp; They wrote it poorly and intended something else, which they later explained is the best reason for this, trying to add an additional action to spontaneous spell casting isn't a good way to explain it.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Shard O'Glase, post: 109096, member: 1134"] I'm sorry that just doesn't make sense as a reason. Following that line of reasoning, a sorcerer who metamagiced a spell with empower would spend a full round aciton applying a spontaineous metamagic first and then have to spend a standard action to cast the spell. Spontaneous metamagic and casting the spell are the same action wrapped up in that full round action. So by the written rules in the PH, it should only take a free action since it has a casting itme of 1 round or less.(even if it doesn't make much sense, to expand the time to then end up shortening it) Sure they have clarrified it in T&B, and in comments but as it was written in the PH I think Rybaer has it right. They wrote it poorly and intended something else, which they later explained is the best reason for this, trying to add an additional action to spontaneous spell casting isn't a good way to explain it. [/QUOTE]

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