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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 4571458" data-attributes="member: 1656">The whole distinction between C1/ and C2/ is in how that sentence is read - it's definitely included!Threatening Reach states that a creature leaving a square within your reach provokes an OA.&nbsp; It doesn't modify the rule that a creature leaving an adjacent square provokes an OA; it provides a new condition under which an OA is provoked.Whether or not a creature shifting out of a non-adjacent square provokes is dependent on whether, as you say, the reference to &quot;you can't make one if the enemy shifts&quot; is assumed to be in the context of &quot;If an enemy leaves a square adjacent to you&quot;.If it is, then the Threatening Reach description has no connection to the sentence &quot;you can't make one if the enemy shifts&quot;; the enemy is not leaving a square adjacent to you, so that entire paragraph is irrelevant.If it isn't, and &quot;you can't make one if the enemy shifts&quot; is globally applicable, rather than only in the case of an enemy leaving a square adjacent to you, then it will prevent an OA from Threatening Reach when you shift, but also an OA from any other source when you shift, such as Polearm Gamble.So that's the question.Does &quot;you can't make one if the enemy shifts&quot; mean:1. &quot;You can't make [an OA] if the enemy shifts&quot;?2. &quot;You can't make [an OA against an enemy leaving an adjacent square] if the enemy shifts&quot;?-Hyp.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 4571458, member: 1656"] The whole distinction between C1/ and C2/ is in how that sentence is read - it's definitely included! Threatening Reach states that a creature leaving a square within your reach provokes an OA. It doesn't modify the rule that a creature leaving an adjacent square provokes an OA; it provides a new condition under which an OA is provoked. Whether or not a creature shifting out of a non-adjacent square provokes is dependent on whether, as you say, the reference to "you can't make one if the enemy shifts" is assumed to be in the context of "If an enemy leaves a square adjacent to you". If it [i]is[/i], then the Threatening Reach description has no connection to the sentence "you can't make one if the enemy shifts"; the enemy is not leaving a square adjacent to you, so that entire paragraph is irrelevant. If it isn't, and "you can't make one if the enemy shifts" is globally applicable, rather than only in the case of an enemy leaving a square adjacent to you, then it will prevent an OA from Threatening Reach when you shift, but also an OA from any other source when you shift, such as Polearm Gamble. So that's the question. Does "you can't make one if the enemy shifts" mean: 1. "You can't make [an OA] if the enemy shifts"? 2. "You can't make [an OA against an enemy leaving an adjacent square] if the enemy shifts"? -Hyp. [/QUOTE]

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