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<blockquote data-quote="Crothian" data-source="post: 1123831" data-attributes="member: 232">How many prestige classes give bonus feats at first level?&nbsp; And howe can you not say that taking a different class ever level is not better then any core class?&nbsp; I can create a wizard that has 20th level spell ability, but way more special abilities, better saves, better hit points.&nbsp; I can do the same for Cleric minus the hit points.&nbsp; I actually might be able to get the hit points better if I really tried.&nbsp; I can do this for rogue and actually create a character with sneak attack the puts a 20th level rogues to shame.&nbsp; Prestige classes are better then core classes.&nbsp; Min maxing them to &quot;use&quot; the sytem will only make that worse.&nbsp; Using third party products that may be balanced with the core rules but not to each other will make this worse.&nbsp; I can see your points in theory, but I don't see them in practice.&nbsp; I'd like to see your example character that is 20th level with no more then a single level in any class.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Crothian, post: 1123831, member: 232"] How many prestige classes give bonus feats at first level? And howe can you not say that taking a different class ever level is not better then any core class? I can create a wizard that has 20th level spell ability, but way more special abilities, better saves, better hit points. I can do the same for Cleric minus the hit points. I actually might be able to get the hit points better if I really tried. I can do this for rogue and actually create a character with sneak attack the puts a 20th level rogues to shame. Prestige classes are better then core classes. Min maxing them to "use" the sytem will only make that worse. Using third party products that may be balanced with the core rules but not to each other will make this worse. I can see your points in theory, but I don't see them in practice. I'd like to see your example character that is 20th level with no more then a single level in any class. [/QUOTE]

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