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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FrankTrollman" data-source="post: 1124951" data-attributes="member: 14225">I never changed my position "from" 1 level per class. That was never my position:Got that? Now, the examples I showed had as many as 3 or 4 levels of a class. That was because I was being lazy.Then the Fighter is underpowered. End of discussion.The absolute minimum of course, is:1 Bonus Feat2 Bonus Feat3 Bonus Feat4 Bonus Feat5 Bonus Feat6 Bonus Feat7 Bonus Feat8 Bonus Feat9 Bonus Feat10 Bonus Feat11 Bonus Feat12 Bonus Feat13 Bonus Feat14 Bonus Feat15 Bonus Feat16 Bonus Feat17 Bonus Feat18 Bonus Feat19 Bonus Feat20 Bonus Feat(Note that the ability to purchase Weapon Specialization is not a class feature any more than the ability to purchase Intimidating Rage is a class feature of the Barbarian class)Now, every level also needs to provide a minor bonus (such as "Tumble Bonus" or "Best Effort") or provide 4 skill points.And that's a base minimum to get the Fighter onto the track of the lowest possible values for a character class providing +1 BAB every level.In addition, however, just as the Rogue begins getting additional abilities from level 10 on, so does the Fighter. A Fighter should get an additional Special Ability (which would in turn be worth approximately one extra feat, just like the Rogue's special abilities) at about levels 10, 13, 16, and 19.So a Balanced Fighter would look something like this:Hit Die: d10BAB: Good.Saves: Fort: Good; Reflex: Poor; Will: Poor.Class Skills: Balance, Climb, Craft, Diplomacy, Eswcape Artist, Handle Animal, Intimidate, Jump, Knowledge (Geography, History), Listen, Profession, Ride, Sense Motive, Sleight of Hand, Sneak,  Spot, Survival, Swim, Tumble.Skills: 4 + Int Bonus1 Bonus Feat2 Bonus Feat3 Bonus Feat4 Bonus Feat5 Bonus Feat6 Bonus Feat7 Bonus Feat8 Bonus Feat9 Bonus Feat10 Bonus Feat, Special Ability11 Bonus Feat12 Bonus Feat13 Bonus Feat, Special Ability14 Bonus Feat15 Bonus Feat16 Bonus Feat, Special Ability17 Bonus Feat18 Bonus Feat19 Bonus Feat, Special Ability20 Bonus FeatSpecial Ability: One Bonus Feat, or Mettle, Combat Sense, Defensive Blow, Evasion, Uncanny Dodge, or something like that.-That would be kind of similar to something that might be balanced for 20 levels.-Frank</blockquote>

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