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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FrankTrollman" data-source="post: 1126448" data-attributes="member: 14225">Right now, the upper levels of Rogue are pretty sweet, excpet for a few that are mysteriously empty.You start getting Rogue abilities, and Skill Mastery is crazy sweet.The problem I generally see is that people don't like getting the middle levels of Rogue. That and the PrCs listed in Lute and Loot pretty much suck.The first five levels give you a sneak attack and/or a cool ability every level. But level 6 gives you Trap Sense +2. Noone cares about Trap Sense +2.So people want to PrC instead of taking level 6. But when they do, they end up not getting the later Rogue levels - and that really comes back to bite them when they don't have Skill Mastery: Disable Device.I suggest that the Rogue abilities be moved around and down a bit so they get something nice every level.Say a progression that looked like:1 Sneak Attack +1d6, Trapfinding2 Evasion3 Sneak Attack +2d6, Trap Sense +14 Uncanny Dodge5 Sneak Attack +3d66 Improved Uncanny Dodge7 Sneak Attack +4d6, Trap Sense +28 Special Ability9 Sneak Attack +5d610 Skill Bonus Feat, Trap Sense +311 Sneak Attack +6d612 Special Ability13 Sneak Attack +7d6, Trap Sense +414 Skill Bonus feat15 Sneak Attack +8d616 Special Ability17 Sneak Attack +9d6, Trap Sense +518 Skill Bonus Feat19 Sneak Attack +10d620 Special AbilityWith Skill Bonus feats being just a bonus feat that can only be spent on one of those silly +2/+2 feats or Skill Focus.Not much of a power-up, but moving things to the mid levels where they are needed.That and the Rogue PrCs would get a lot more useful if people didn't lose BAB to get them.-Frank</blockquote>

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