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<blockquote data-quote="FrankTrollman" data-source="post: 1127261" data-attributes="member: 14225"><p>I'm not especially looking for a fight, but I can't stop sniping you either.</p><p></p><p>You see, your two "solutions" to the Fighter problem were:</p><p></p><p>1> Spend a couple of feats on Cosmopolitan.</p><p>or</p><p>2> Multiclass.</p><p></p><p>Right. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> </p><p></p><p>---</p><p></p><p>For the first one, let's look at a 3rd level Fighter:</p><p></p><p>The only class features of the whole class so far, has been the gaining of 2 bonus feats. If I spend two feats that I otherwise would not have to get a couple of Cosmopolitans, I then have to spend those 2 bonus feats on the combat feats I otherwise would have <em>without taking any class at all</em>.</p><p></p><p>So the net result: I get +2 to two skills, and have the lowest possible number of skill points and no class features at all for three levels. Do I have to draw you a diagram?</p><p></p><p>---</p><p></p><p>For the second one:</p><p>[sarcasm]</p><p>Gosh, you're right! If I <em>don't take Fighter Levels at all, my Fighter Levels won't drag me down!</em> Why didn't I think of that?</p><p></p><p>Of course, I can make up for the shortcomings of the Fighter class by <em>not taking Fighter Levels</em>. That solves everything.</p><p>[/sarcasm]</p><p></p><p>Of course, that's just like saying "The Sorcerer's power and diversity problems are completely solved by just taking your first level as Wizard and taking all of your subsequent levels as Wizard."</p><p></p><p>That's basically so irrelevent to the discussion that I can't even tell if it's "true" or "false". Any problems with a class can, of course, be removed by taking your levels in some other class - that's not a helpful suggestion.</p><p>----</p><p></p><p></p><p>So yes, pendragon - your suggestions are comical to the point where you are the comic relief of this discussion. We can't take you seriously. That's why we make fun of you.</p><p></p><p>-Frank</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrankTrollman, post: 1127261, member: 14225"] I'm not especially looking for a fight, but I can't stop sniping you either. You see, your two "solutions" to the Fighter problem were: 1> Spend a couple of feats on Cosmopolitan. or 2> Multiclass. Right. :rolleyes: --- For the first one, let's look at a 3rd level Fighter: The only class features of the whole class so far, has been the gaining of 2 bonus feats. If I spend two feats that I otherwise would not have to get a couple of Cosmopolitans, I then have to spend those 2 bonus feats on the combat feats I otherwise would have [i]without taking any class at all[/i]. So the net result: I get +2 to two skills, and have the lowest possible number of skill points and no class features at all for three levels. Do I have to draw you a diagram? --- For the second one: [sarcasm] Gosh, you're right! If I [i]don't take Fighter Levels at all, my Fighter Levels won't drag me down![/i] Why didn't I think of that? Of course, I can make up for the shortcomings of the Fighter class by [i]not taking Fighter Levels[/i]. That solves everything. [/sarcasm] Of course, that's just like saying "The Sorcerer's power and diversity problems are completely solved by just taking your first level as Wizard and taking all of your subsequent levels as Wizard." That's basically so irrelevent to the discussion that I can't even tell if it's "true" or "false". Any problems with a class can, of course, be removed by taking your levels in some other class - that's not a helpful suggestion. ---- So yes, pendragon - your suggestions are comical to the point where you are the comic relief of this discussion. We can't take you seriously. That's why we make fun of you. -Frank [/QUOTE]
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