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<blockquote data-quote="The_DarkAngel" data-source="post: 1133037" data-attributes="member: 14194">Thats a good retort Humanophile, thank u. Also, on another note sense so many peeps want to talk baout the &quot;role-playing&quot; side of the fighter. Were the hell are the &quot;kits&quot;. I thought they were aweseome (old 2e). Prestige classes are ok, and in rare instances they may be a place for a few of them but, kits make more sense to me, and are more usable at low levels as well.Problem is the ol' Wotc boys arent fond of giving characters any disadvantage anymore. Which in roleplaying value wise, it sucks.By the way, when peeps consider saying &quot;oh the fighter is only good at fighting and he dont need skill points because its unbalancing&quot; to other classes, I'd also like to know which classes. The Ranger and Bard are more threating to the Thief in regaurds to &quot;skill points&quot;. Some classes are very good at a few things. Rangers are great at skills, great at Fighting, and can dable in spells. Wizards are excellent at fighting but they can pick and choose spells for almost any enviorment. Fighters are excellent in fighting (thats it). A skill boost to 4 and no additional core classes is hardly unfair (unless u can prove otherwise).DA</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The_DarkAngel, post: 1133037, member: 14194"] Thats a good retort Humanophile, thank u. Also, on another note sense so many peeps want to talk baout the "role-playing" side of the fighter. Were the hell are the "kits". I thought they were aweseome (old 2e). Prestige classes are ok, and in rare instances they may be a place for a few of them but, kits make more sense to me, and are more usable at low levels as well. Problem is the ol' Wotc boys arent fond of giving characters any disadvantage anymore. Which in roleplaying value wise, it sucks. By the way, when peeps consider saying "oh the fighter is only good at fighting and he dont need skill points because its unbalancing" to other classes, I'd also like to know which classes. The Ranger and Bard are more threating to the Thief in regaurds to "skill points". Some classes are very good at a few things. Rangers are great at skills, great at Fighting, and can dable in spells. Wizards are excellent at fighting but they can pick and choose spells for almost any enviorment. Fighters are excellent in fighting (thats it). A skill boost to 4 and no additional core classes is hardly unfair (unless u can prove otherwise). DA [/QUOTE]

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