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<blockquote data-quote="Curugul" data-source="post: 1135557" data-attributes="member: 9447">...You're arguing against yourself here.&nbsp; &nbsp; A wizard isn't complaining because he just threw a chain lightning. Do you honestly disagree that a wizard has VERY respectable combat power, if he wants it?&nbsp; A rogue isn't going to complain about not out damaging the fighter THIS combat, since undead is involved.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Because he has a great deal of power OUTSIDE of combat. And he's likely handily doing near, or more damage than a fighter most other combats.Let me flip your example.&nbsp;&nbsp; You'd hear the rogue's complaining about only 8 skill points a level if every other class was given +3 skill points per level (Fighters at 5, Barbs at 7, ect).&nbsp; Why?&nbsp;&nbsp; Because suddenly, most class's either nearly equal, equal, or exceed the rogues key ability.&nbsp; The rogue still has the ability to deal with magical traps, and sneak attack you say!&nbsp; And hes still better at skills than most class's. Seem fair? THAT is the situation Fighters are in.&nbsp;&nbsp; Essentially 90% of the class's in the game either equal, nearly equal, or EXCEED his combat power in any given combat.&nbsp; Its based on the circumstances involved.&nbsp;&nbsp; And combat is all the fighter has.So either buff the fighters utility outside combat, or make him better at it.&nbsp; But can you seriously look at the fighter class as it stands and think they're balanced?Don't argue they're PLAYABLE.&nbsp; Anythings Playable.&nbsp; Are they balanced?&nbsp; I honestly do not understand how anyone could think that.Curugul</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Curugul, post: 1135557, member: 9447"] [b]...[/b] You're arguing against yourself here. A wizard isn't complaining because he just threw a chain lightning. Do you honestly disagree that a wizard has VERY respectable combat power, if he wants it? A rogue isn't going to complain about not out damaging the fighter THIS combat, since undead is involved. Why? Because he has a great deal of power OUTSIDE of combat. And he's likely handily doing near, or more damage than a fighter most other combats. Let me flip your example. You'd hear the rogue's complaining about only 8 skill points a level if every other class was given +3 skill points per level (Fighters at 5, Barbs at 7, ect). Why? Because suddenly, most class's either nearly equal, equal, or exceed the rogues key ability. The rogue still has the ability to deal with magical traps, and sneak attack you say! And hes still better at skills than most class's. Seem fair? THAT is the situation Fighters are in. Essentially 90% of the class's in the game either equal, nearly equal, or EXCEED his combat power in any given combat. Its based on the circumstances involved. And combat is all the fighter has. So either buff the fighters utility outside combat, or make him better at it. But can you seriously look at the fighter class as it stands and think they're balanced? Don't argue they're PLAYABLE. Anythings Playable. Are they balanced? I honestly do not understand how anyone could think that. Curugul [/QUOTE]

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