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<blockquote data-quote="Ketjak" data-source="post: 1137115" data-attributes="member: 1083">Drama. Human Rogue (32 points, 16 14 14 12 12 10)S 12&nbsp; D 14&nbsp; C 10&nbsp; I 16&nbsp; W 12&nbsp; Ch 12Elven Rogue (32 points, 18 14 12 10 10 10)S 10&nbsp; D 16&nbsp; C 10&nbsp; I 18&nbsp; W 10&nbsp; Ch 10Some skills are useful at less than maximum values. Try:(12 skill points/level, 48 at 1st).................1st..2nd..3rd..4th etc.Appraise.........+2...+0...+1...+0Craft............+2...+1...+0...+1Disable Device...+4...+1...+1...+1Escape Artist....+2...+0...+1...+0Gather Info......+2...+1...+0...+1Hide.............+4...+1...+1...+1Listen...........+4...+1...+1...+1Move Silently....+4...+1...+1...+1Open Lock........+4...+1...+1...+1Search...........+4...+1...+1...+1Spot.............+4...+1...+1...+1Sense Motive.....+2...+0...+1...+0Sleight of Hand..+2...+1...+0...+1Tumble...........+4...+1...+1...+1Use Magic Device.+2...+0...+1...+0Use Rope.........+2...+1...+0...+1Add in stat bonuses as applicable.There's no denying that this Rogue is all over the board. However, he can do it. The situation gets better as he rises in level as some skills reach a plateau in effectiveness.The Rogue is the &quot;skill specialist.&quot; The Ranger is the &quot;skilled warrior.&quot; The Fighter is the &quot;combat specialist.&quot; These classes work - and are balanced - as designed. The Fighter may not be flashy - but it's a well-balanced class. Humanophile's changes improve it without hurting balance.Can we wrap this one now?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ketjak, post: 1137115, member: 1083"] Drama. Human Rogue (32 points, 16 14 14 12 12 10) S 12 D 14 C 10 I 16 W 12 Ch 12 Elven Rogue (32 points, 18 14 12 10 10 10) S 10 D 16 C 10 I 18 W 10 Ch 10 Some skills are useful at less than maximum values. Try: (12 skill points/level, 48 at 1st) [FONT=Courier New].................1st..2nd..3rd..4th etc. Appraise.........+2...+0...+1...+0 Craft............+2...+1...+0...+1 Disable Device...+4...+1...+1...+1 Escape Artist....+2...+0...+1...+0 Gather Info......+2...+1...+0...+1 Hide.............+4...+1...+1...+1 Listen...........+4...+1...+1...+1 Move Silently....+4...+1...+1...+1 Open Lock........+4...+1...+1...+1 Search...........+4...+1...+1...+1 Spot.............+4...+1...+1...+1 Sense Motive.....+2...+0...+1...+0 Sleight of Hand..+2...+1...+0...+1 Tumble...........+4...+1...+1...+1 Use Magic Device.+2...+0...+1...+0 Use Rope.........+2...+1...+0...+1[/FONT] Add in stat bonuses as applicable. There's no denying that this Rogue is all over the board. However, he can do it. The situation gets better as he rises in level as some skills reach a plateau in effectiveness. The Rogue is the "skill specialist." The Ranger is the "skilled warrior." The Fighter is the "combat specialist." These classes work - and are balanced - as designed. The Fighter may not be flashy - but it's a well-balanced class. Humanophile's changes improve it without hurting balance. Can we wrap this one now? [/QUOTE]

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