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<blockquote data-quote="FrankTrollman" data-source="post: 1141943" data-attributes="member: 14225"><p>True. You can keep taking feats that are good until you are epic level, even if you got a feat every level (which you do not). There are thousands of feats, claiming that you could somehow run out of good feats to take is absurd.</p><p></p><p>However there's a much bigger problem. The Desert Raider, the Pirate, the Crusader, and all the other "Fighter Variants" - are in fact different Core Classes. You can multiclass between them freely.</p><p></p><p>The first two levels of Fighter are literally and exactly twice as good as all of the rest of the levels. There's nothing to stop you from taking 2 levels of Pirate and two levels of Corsaire. The fact that doing so gives you an extra feat indicates that <em>either</em>:</p><p></p><p>1> The first two levels of Fighter are overpowered</p><p>or</p><p>2> The next two levels of Fighter are underpowered.</p><p></p><p>Unless someone can give me a really compelling reason why the first two levels of Fighter are not only balanced - but in fact <strong>overpowered</strong> - the rest of the class needs to give benefits twice as fast as it in fact does.</p><p></p><p>It gets even worse at Epic Levels, BTW. There is no benefit whatsoever to taking level 21 of Fighter over any other class. None. You don't even get more BAB than you would if you took a level of Wizard.</p><p></p><p>-Frank</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrankTrollman, post: 1141943, member: 14225"] True. You can keep taking feats that are good until you are epic level, even if you got a feat every level (which you do not). There are thousands of feats, claiming that you could somehow run out of good feats to take is absurd. However there's a much bigger problem. The Desert Raider, the Pirate, the Crusader, and all the other "Fighter Variants" - are in fact different Core Classes. You can multiclass between them freely. The first two levels of Fighter are literally and exactly twice as good as all of the rest of the levels. There's nothing to stop you from taking 2 levels of Pirate and two levels of Corsaire. The fact that doing so gives you an extra feat indicates that [i]either[/i]: 1> The first two levels of Fighter are overpowered or 2> The next two levels of Fighter are underpowered. Unless someone can give me a really compelling reason why the first two levels of Fighter are not only balanced - but in fact [b]overpowered[/b] - the rest of the class needs to give benefits twice as fast as it in fact does. It gets even worse at Epic Levels, BTW. There is no benefit whatsoever to taking level 21 of Fighter over any other class. None. You don't even get more BAB than you would if you took a level of Wizard. -Frank [/QUOTE]
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