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<blockquote data-quote="Bauglir" data-source="post: 1143421" data-attributes="member: 6982">Yes, I would.&nbsp; Just like I would tell the mage that no, he doesn't stab the dragon through the heart with his dagger, killing it instantly without ever picking up a die.Just like I would tell the int 6 half-orc that no, he didn't just come up with that highly complicated plan.I draw a very firm line between what comes from the player and what comes from the character.&nbsp; If player charisma &amp; skill overrides character charisma &amp; skill then naturally charismatic people will dominate the game, while shy people will become mere spectators (I've seen it happen).&nbsp; Also why stop there?&nbsp; Why not throw out BAB, and generate each character's attack bonus based on a game of darts?At the same time, I'm not saying roleplaying should have zero influence:&nbsp; My own take on it is to apply a modifier to the roll based on circumstances.&nbsp; For example I'd give a bonus to a bluff check if the player came up with a particularly convincing bluff, but even with the most convincing bluff, the character may screw it up by poor delivery (ie the roll must still be made).Just like there are situations where the player exceeds the character, there will also be situations where the character exceeds the player.&nbsp; If the character is very intelligent and/or skilled (for example) I might feed that player more information about what they see than others, since their character will naturally be considering all that they see.&nbsp; For example I might describe a scene to a rogue in terms of opportunities to move past unseen (if they have some hide skill) or areas that might be trapped (if they have Search).&nbsp; The fighter just sees a corridor.&nbsp; The rogue notes that this corridor is tiled (while others were not)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bauglir, post: 1143421, member: 6982"] Yes, I would. Just like I would tell the mage that no, he doesn't stab the dragon through the heart with his dagger, killing it instantly without ever picking up a die. Just like I would tell the int 6 half-orc that no, he didn't just come up with that highly complicated plan. I draw a very firm line between what comes from the player and what comes from the character. If player charisma & skill overrides character charisma & skill then naturally charismatic people will dominate the game, while shy people will become mere spectators (I've seen it happen). Also why stop there? Why not throw out BAB, and generate each character's attack bonus based on a game of darts? At the same time, I'm not saying roleplaying should have zero influence: My own take on it is to apply a modifier to the roll based on circumstances. For example I'd give a bonus to a bluff check if the player came up with a particularly convincing bluff, but even with the most convincing bluff, the character may screw it up by poor delivery (ie the roll must still be made). Just like there are situations where the player exceeds the character, there will also be situations where the character exceeds the player. If the character is very intelligent and/or skilled (for example) I might feed that player more information about what they see than others, since their character will naturally be considering all that they see. For example I might describe a scene to a rogue in terms of opportunities to move past unseen (if they have some hide skill) or areas that might be trapped (if they have Search). The fighter just sees a corridor. The rogue notes that this corridor is tiled (while others were not) [/QUOTE]

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