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<blockquote data-quote="Bauglir" data-source="post: 1145172" data-attributes="member: 6982">Even if the soldier was 'Derek the Truthful, he who never lies', still the situation IMO should not be resolved in his favour without ever rolling a dice.&nbsp; The diplomat has many routes to go down to make a halfway convincing story, and all his charm to make it stick.&nbsp; Perhaps the 'enemy soldiers' were some third party attempting to plant evidence to start a war?&nbsp; Perhaps Derek has turned to evil?&nbsp; (a harder bluff but not impossible) or perhaps (dum dum DUM) this isn't Derek at all, but someone posing as Derek in an attempt to start a war?Remember that, with all the combat tactics in the world, the combatter is still slave to his attack bonus (+/- a small circumstance bonus - flanking etc) and abilities.&nbsp; A mage cannot bypass a dragon's armour &amp; DR just by coming up with a really nice way to stab it with his non-magical dagger, while the fighter is having trouble denting it.&nbsp; In the same sense I would not allow a fighter to outperform a charisma based character in their field of expertise, just by coming up with a good story, particularly if the character in question is unlikely to have been smart enough to come up with that story in the first place.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bauglir, post: 1145172, member: 6982"] Even if the soldier was 'Derek the Truthful, he who never lies', still the situation IMO should not be resolved in his favour without ever rolling a dice. The diplomat has many routes to go down to make a halfway convincing story, and all his charm to make it stick. Perhaps the 'enemy soldiers' were some third party attempting to plant evidence to start a war? Perhaps Derek has turned to evil? (a harder bluff but not impossible) or perhaps (dum dum DUM) this isn't Derek at all, but someone posing as Derek in an attempt to start a war? Remember that, with all the combat tactics in the world, the combatter is still slave to his attack bonus (+/- a small circumstance bonus - flanking etc) and abilities. A mage cannot bypass a dragon's armour & DR just by coming up with a really nice way to stab it with his non-magical dagger, while the fighter is having trouble denting it. In the same sense I would not allow a fighter to outperform a charisma based character in their field of expertise, just by coming up with a good story, particularly if the character in question is unlikely to have been smart enough to come up with that story in the first place. [/QUOTE]

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