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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FrankTrollman" data-source="post: 1146714" data-attributes="member: 14225">It's this kind of analysis that keeps us from respecting you.One of the drawbacks of TWF is its lower chance of hitting. You get -2. If you disregard that fact you are going to scew the results.For example, if your attack bonus is such that you hit on a 2+ with the greatsword, your average damage will be 21.565 per round. However, the short swords will only hit on a 4+, and the average damage per round will be 19.635. And that's a best case scenario. In the worst case scenario - where the -2 to-hit is proportionally larger - the Greatsworder will hit on a 18+ and be doing only 3.405 damage. The Shortsworder, will only be hitting on a natural 20 - and be doing 1.155 damage per round. And that's still glazing over the fact that the Greatsword does massively better on charges, surprise rounds, is more resistant to and better at disarming and sundering, and is more than twice as effective with attacks of opportunity.So when you hand out mathematical analysis like that - where you flash some numbers on the screen which are purposefully deceptive - we can't take you seriously. If you can't do statistics with the big boys - don't get involved in a multipage statistical argument. While you've mastered the "condescension" portion of the argument style - your bluff disregard of easily provable mathematical facts is tiresome.-Frank</blockquote>