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Message: <blockquote data-quote="green slime" data-source="post: 1146863" data-attributes="member: 1325">Frank, you have yet to show that your arguments are relevant for those playing 3.5 rules, without tacking on extraneous and extravagant rules from various splatbooks. Splatbooks which are and always have been prone to power uppage, and DM-nerfing, and less likely to be accepted.Build a better fighter than the fighter class, using prevalent 3.5 rules. Without introducing books that gave us the mecurial sword, and armour of speed, and similar brainfarts.IMO, a campaign can only benefit from more focus, where the DM limits the number of options available, whether it be humanoid races, weapons, or prestige classes. It provides for a more flavourful game, rather than a potpurri of all in existance.Looking at the present 3.5 ruleset, there are only 4 (Barbarian, Fighter, Paladin, Ranger) classes with full BAB progression, one NPC class (which by its very listing amongst NPC-classes, is not proposed as a PC class...), and 6 prestige classes (arcane archer, blackguard, duelist, dwarven defender, eldritch knight, and horizon walker). The Dragon Disciple should be included in the above due to its enormous Strength gain.Sure the plain fighter may come across as somewhat bland, but somehow, I never seem to find a PrC which enables me to create the Warrior I want to play... That arcane archer may be a better shot with the bow, and the duelist... well, that just aint my style.Now I'm sure the Complete Warriors Splatbook for Munchkins will provide more PrC when arrives, some of which will be what I consider too powerful. If you are going to accept all and any PrC with no reservation in your game, you are going to have problems of the kind you describe, and not just with the fighter class. The same applies to the Wizard and Cleric classes. There are Cleric PrC's which provide full spellcasting, full BAB, and two good saves (IIRC). Relying on the people who produce stuff to sell, to provide you with the balance and equality between party members within your particular campaign is expecting the impossible.</blockquote>

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