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<blockquote data-quote="Magius del Cotto" data-source="post: 1149869" data-attributes="member: 6554">Yes, yes.&nbsp; However, let's take for granted that the fighter has the ability to meet the prerequisites for the feats he needs.&nbsp; The only thing keeping the fighter from finishing the feat tree at level 4 (for TWF) is the fact that he needs a BAB of +11.&nbsp; Indeed, most of the feat trees that the fighter would be traversing can be done with between 4 and 8 feats (I think).Unarmed tree: 5; Whirwind tree: 5; Bow tree: 7; Power Attack tree: 6; Weapon Focus tree: 4.Assuming that all of the top-end feats of each of these trees is about the same power-wise, every time you finish a tree, the power of your next feat drops dramatically.&nbsp; In the cases where the concept is extremely focused, then you only have one or two trees that you'll be traversing.&nbsp; No reason to go into higher levels at all.Of course, with a concept like &quot;I want to be the best fighter&quot;, or something else the like, you're going to end up using most of the trees.&nbsp; However, I don't like working off such a general concept, so I hardly ever run a fighter like that.This all is, of course, for what it's worth.Edit: Dr. Spunj: you beat me to the punch, and said what I'm saying so succinctly.&nbsp; The simple solution, of course, would be to add more feats to the end to all of the trees.&nbsp; Maybe make more feats that combine trees.&nbsp; However, that seems a bit brute-force to me, so I'll leave it at that.Magius out.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Magius del Cotto, post: 1149869, member: 6554"] Yes, yes. However, let's take for granted that the fighter has the ability to meet the prerequisites for the feats he needs. The only thing keeping the fighter from finishing the feat tree at level 4 (for TWF) is the fact that he needs a BAB of +11. Indeed, most of the feat trees that the fighter would be traversing can be done with between 4 and 8 feats (I think). Unarmed tree: 5; Whirwind tree: 5; Bow tree: 7; Power Attack tree: 6; Weapon Focus tree: 4. Assuming that all of the top-end feats of each of these trees is about the same power-wise, every time you finish a tree, the power of your next feat drops dramatically. In the cases where the concept is extremely focused, then you only have one or two trees that you'll be traversing. No reason to go into higher levels at all. Of course, with a concept like "I want to be the best fighter", or something else the like, you're going to end up using most of the trees. However, I don't like working off such a general concept, so I hardly ever run a fighter like that. This all is, of course, for what it's worth. Edit: Dr. Spunj: you beat me to the punch, and said what I'm saying so succinctly. The simple solution, of course, would be to add more feats to the end to all of the trees. Maybe make more feats that combine trees. However, that seems a bit brute-force to me, so I'll leave it at that. Magius out. [/QUOTE]

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