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<blockquote data-quote="Ketjak" data-source="post: 1152322" data-attributes="member: 1083">Frank,You still ignore that Crothian and I pointed out that you were citing straight-up Fighter class characters as examples of when describing what a Fighter should be. So... are those still examples of what you want from a Fighter or are they suddenly unacceptable.You also never addressed that the character concepts you illustrated use PRESTIGE classes. By definition, Prestige classes are better than a core class, usually in specific areas. By using FOUR different prestige classes with a total of 9 of 16 class levels, OF COURSE that character is going to be better at each of the things those PRESTIGE classes do!You insist that those builds should somehow be equaled by the Fighter class. That is stupidity, plain and simple.Your failur to acknolwedge those points speaks to either a psychotic break in which you don't recognize the bits of reality that don't appeal to you OR that you're deliberately avoiding recognition. Either one speaks to a bad problem, but the psychotic break is at least acceptable. When you acknowledge those two points I'll engage your arguments head-on. Until then, you're not actually arguing, you're whining.Finally, your constant stream of insults is unacceptable. Defend your position without them, because it marks you as the biggest a-hole posting here. When you can engage in a debate without using insults, and when you can acknowledge when another person has a valid point, then you'll be the debater you would like to be.Of course, if you respond the way I expect - with an insult, or not at all - then we know what you're really made of. Chalk it up to a nice troll and be done.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ketjak, post: 1152322, member: 1083"] Frank, You still ignore that Crothian and I pointed out that you were citing straight-up Fighter class characters as examples of when describing what a Fighter [i]should[/i] be. So... are those still examples of what you want from a Fighter or are they suddenly unacceptable. You also never addressed that the character concepts you illustrated use PRESTIGE classes. By definition, Prestige classes are better than a core class, usually in specific areas. By using FOUR different prestige classes with a total of 9 of 16 class levels, OF COURSE that character is going to be better at each of the things those PRESTIGE classes do! You insist that those builds should somehow be equaled by the Fighter class. That is stupidity, plain and simple. Your failur to acknolwedge those points speaks to either a psychotic break in which you don't recognize the bits of reality that don't appeal to you OR that you're deliberately avoiding recognition. Either one speaks to a bad problem, but the psychotic break is at least acceptable. When you acknowledge those two points I'll engage your arguments head-on. Until then, you're not actually arguing, you're whining. Finally, your constant stream of insults is unacceptable. Defend your position without them, because it marks you as the biggest a-hole posting here. When you can engage in a debate without using insults, and when you can acknowledge when another person has a valid point, then you'll be the debater you would like to be. Of course, if you respond the way I expect - with an insult, or not at all - then we know what you're really made of. Chalk it up to a nice troll and be done. [/QUOTE]

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