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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TwoSix" data-source="post: 8088971" data-attributes="member: 205">Here's the issue.  I'm assuming by "meaningful" you mean that the race choice impacts your stats, which will necessarily steer the race towards some classes and away from others.Fundamentally, a large portion of the player base want race to have an impact on class choice, and some races to be stronger with some classes than with others.  And a significant portion of the player base wants the choices of race and class to be independent of each other, so that any race can play any class with equal facility.There's no real way (I can see) to square that circle.  It's no different of a conceptual argument than occurred when they lifted race-class restrictions in 3E, it's simply the parameters that have changed.</blockquote>