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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8089458" data-attributes="member: 6987520"><p>When the difference is due to biology (which has <em>always</em> been my premise), I disagree. We are talking about different species. There are a lot of "humanoid" animals out there that are stronger and faster than what most humans could be. We are much more intelligent then they are.</p><p></p><p>Heck, there are many people who are stronger, faster, healthier, smarter, more attuned to the world, and magnetic than I am. Does that <em>bother</em> me? Do I think it is <em>wrong</em> or <em>unfair</em>? Of course not.</p><p></p><p>I would never actually say "keep racial ASIs" because of tradition. I would say keep them because they are actual biological differences between species. <em>IF</em> you don't want that difference, then fine don't play with them or float them (as they are now allowing as part of RAW). They aren't being taken away, but now neither are the those ASIs due to racial choices. When every race can have the same thing, then those adjustments are not due to race.</p><p></p><p>I would rather (if anything) see them move to class and background then. Look, I am a wizard so I get a bonus to INT. Why? Because I studied or whatever so I am more likely to be smarter than the cleric next to me. There's no guarantee, especially if you are rolling scores, but the odds are with you. I think saying each class has a +2 boost to two things (maybe three...) and you get a free +1 floater would be best. Actually, no, <em>removing bumps entirely</em> would be best... but few people seem to want that. <em>shrug</em></p><p></p><p>Oh, and you know what, for the most part women are not as strong as men (at least in humans), so I never minded the idea that in AD&D they had a lower STR score. Now, 5E has shifted exactly what STR means, so it isn't really appropriate anymore, but there could still be an encumbrance factor for it. You could argue on the other side that most men aren't as flexible or agile as women, or have the same pain capacity as women, so suggesting women should have superior DEX or CON would not bother me, either. But, D&D has shifted away from being as simulationist as it used to be, so not having them in the game is fine, too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 8089458, member: 6987520"] When the difference is due to biology (which has [I]always[/I] been my premise), I disagree. We are talking about different species. There are a lot of "humanoid" animals out there that are stronger and faster than what most humans could be. We are much more intelligent then they are. Heck, there are many people who are stronger, faster, healthier, smarter, more attuned to the world, and magnetic than I am. Does that [I]bother[/I] me? Do I think it is [I]wrong[/I] or [I]unfair[/I]? Of course not. I would never actually say "keep racial ASIs" because of tradition. I would say keep them because they are actual biological differences between species. [I]IF[/I] you don't want that difference, then fine don't play with them or float them (as they are now allowing as part of RAW). They aren't being taken away, but now neither are the those ASIs due to racial choices. When every race can have the same thing, then those adjustments are not due to race. I would rather (if anything) see them move to class and background then. Look, I am a wizard so I get a bonus to INT. Why? Because I studied or whatever so I am more likely to be smarter than the cleric next to me. There's no guarantee, especially if you are rolling scores, but the odds are with you. I think saying each class has a +2 boost to two things (maybe three...) and you get a free +1 floater would be best. Actually, no, [I]removing bumps entirely[/I] would be best... but few people seem to want that. [I]shrug[/I] Oh, and you know what, for the most part women are not as strong as men (at least in humans), so I never minded the idea that in AD&D they had a lower STR score. Now, 5E has shifted exactly what STR means, so it isn't really appropriate anymore, but there could still be an encumbrance factor for it. You could argue on the other side that most men aren't as flexible or agile as women, or have the same pain capacity as women, so suggesting women should have superior DEX or CON would not bother me, either. But, D&D has shifted away from being as simulationist as it used to be, so not having them in the game is fine, too. [/QUOTE]
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