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<blockquote data-quote="Noicus" data-source="post: 4182418" data-attributes="member: 65056"><p>It seems to me that the class features are the defining aspects of the class, limiting your access to them would make you not much like them. also we have seen a lot of powers which are effected by class features. If you can't have access to them it really neuters the whole concept of mutliclassing. </p><p></p><p>If it is like that, I can see people only taking class training feats to open up paragon paths and epic destinies, and WOTC has said they are trying to get rid of sub-optimal choices.</p><p></p><p>Now a 1st level ranger might be overpowered with both Warlock's Curse and Hunter's Quarry, but it still takes 2 minor actions, which either takes 2 turns to do, or eats your move action. , and seeing how mobility is so important in this edition, that would be a decision you would have to make turn by turn. It also wouldn't be that OP once you had some levels under your belt. Also another thing to think about is while a 1st level ranger in 3E doing 3d6 damage might one shot a bad guy (11.5 damage on average) in 4E it wouldn't even drop something to bloodied </p><p></p><p>and to answer your direct question if you are burning a feat to get the marking you aren't using that feat to up your survivability, it is probably a poor choice to draw aggro like that if you are still squishy. and another answer to your question from somthing i read in the thread on the Paragon classes:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Noicus, post: 4182418, member: 65056"] It seems to me that the class features are the defining aspects of the class, limiting your access to them would make you not much like them. also we have seen a lot of powers which are effected by class features. If you can't have access to them it really neuters the whole concept of mutliclassing. If it is like that, I can see people only taking class training feats to open up paragon paths and epic destinies, and WOTC has said they are trying to get rid of sub-optimal choices. Now a 1st level ranger might be overpowered with both Warlock's Curse and Hunter's Quarry, but it still takes 2 minor actions, which either takes 2 turns to do, or eats your move action. , and seeing how mobility is so important in this edition, that would be a decision you would have to make turn by turn. It also wouldn't be that OP once you had some levels under your belt. Also another thing to think about is while a 1st level ranger in 3E doing 3d6 damage might one shot a bad guy (11.5 damage on average) in 4E it wouldn't even drop something to bloodied and to answer your direct question if you are burning a feat to get the marking you aren't using that feat to up your survivability, it is probably a poor choice to draw aggro like that if you are still squishy. and another answer to your question from somthing i read in the thread on the Paragon classes: [/QUOTE]
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