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<blockquote data-quote="Gargoyle" data-source="post: 6121142" data-attributes="member: 529">Yeah, or they need to change ability score bonuses so that every ability score gives you a bonus, or make it so that giving up a feat gives you +2 to an ability score.&nbsp; Right now there are a lot of variables.Sure I can.&nbsp; It's not perfect because of the variables...the bonuses are different from each other and have different values to different classes/builds, but I would submit it's a&nbsp; start.&nbsp; There is a certain art to game design, and it has to also pass the &quot;feel right&quot; test, and of course, playtesting.&nbsp; But as this is just a game of feats on a forum, I think I sure can use a little math to justify my conclusions, even if the basis isn't solid, it's better than nothing.&nbsp; You still haven't justified why you would buff the feat beyond the original design.&nbsp; Hard to believe that it needs to be better than the original to equal +1 to an ability score, but I guess that's subjective like everything else.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gargoyle, post: 6121142, member: 529"] Yeah, or they need to change ability score bonuses so that every ability score gives you a bonus, or make it so that giving up a feat gives you +2 to an ability score. Right now there are a lot of variables. Sure I can. It's not perfect because of the variables...the bonuses are different from each other and have different values to different classes/builds, but I would submit it's a start. There is a certain art to game design, and it has to also pass the "feel right" test, and of course, playtesting. But as this is just a game of feats on a forum, I think I sure can use a little math to justify my conclusions, even if the basis isn't solid, it's better than nothing. You still haven't justified why you would buff the feat beyond the original design. Hard to believe that it needs to be better than the original to equal +1 to an ability score, but I guess that's subjective like everything else. [/QUOTE]

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