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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 6686710" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>Yes it can be toned down!</p><p></p><p>First some rationale behind the ideas:</p><p></p><p><strong>Spell Savant</strong>: just because this applies to 8 schools instead of 1 (like other subclasses) it doesn't mean it's worth 8 times. I value this as worth 2-3 times as much it's worth for other subclasses, because usually specialists learn 30-70% of spells from their chosen school. This is a <em>minor</em> benefit however in most campaigns except those stingy with money. <strong>But</strong> it can be enough to cover the whole 2nd level benefits.</p><p></p><p><strong>Vast Intellect</strong>: in the extreme case this is 5 extra <em>prepared </em>spells per day (not spell slots), how is this overpowered? In order to get that many, you have to invest in high Wisdom, it is not free! A typical Wizard will only get 2-3 more prepared spells from this, with decreasing relative benefits from additional ones. If you apply the proficiency bonus instead of Wisdom, then it's free of cost and always minimum 2 and up to 6, so it is actually <em>more</em> powerful than my version.</p><p></p><p><strong>Bookwork Expertise</strong> is really just the same as the Rogue's expertise, except that it's limited to knowledge skills. To consider the case of a Wiz that doesn't have 2 knowledge profs already, I added that you get basic proficiency instead. (I avoided mentioning Int-based because I didn't feel thematically this should apply to Investigation).</p><p></p><p><strong>Improved Arcane Recovery</strong> was in fact my main worry. At 20th level it means one additional 7th and one additional 3rd level slots (but only after you've used them once). It still didn't seem outrageous to me.</p><p></p><p>The bonus cantrips certainly can be the first thing to be removed from the benefits, even tho 2 more cantrips when you already know 5 is not that much IMHO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 6686710, member: 1465"] Yes it can be toned down! First some rationale behind the ideas: [B]Spell Savant[/B]: just because this applies to 8 schools instead of 1 (like other subclasses) it doesn't mean it's worth 8 times. I value this as worth 2-3 times as much it's worth for other subclasses, because usually specialists learn 30-70% of spells from their chosen school. This is a [I]minor[/I] benefit however in most campaigns except those stingy with money. [B]But[/B] it can be enough to cover the whole 2nd level benefits. [B]Vast Intellect[/B]: in the extreme case this is 5 extra [I]prepared [/I]spells per day (not spell slots), how is this overpowered? In order to get that many, you have to invest in high Wisdom, it is not free! A typical Wizard will only get 2-3 more prepared spells from this, with decreasing relative benefits from additional ones. If you apply the proficiency bonus instead of Wisdom, then it's free of cost and always minimum 2 and up to 6, so it is actually [I]more[/I] powerful than my version. [B]Bookwork Expertise[/B] is really just the same as the Rogue's expertise, except that it's limited to knowledge skills. To consider the case of a Wiz that doesn't have 2 knowledge profs already, I added that you get basic proficiency instead. (I avoided mentioning Int-based because I didn't feel thematically this should apply to Investigation). [B]Improved Arcane Recovery[/B] was in fact my main worry. At 20th level it means one additional 7th and one additional 3rd level slots (but only after you've used them once). It still didn't seem outrageous to me. The bonus cantrips certainly can be the first thing to be removed from the benefits, even tho 2 more cantrips when you already know 5 is not that much IMHO. [/QUOTE]
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