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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GentleGiant" data-source="post: 4189293" data-attributes="member: 11829">ThunderfootI don't know which measurements you normally use, but a mile is 1.6093 kilometers, so Jürgen would only have been doing 60% more lanes than usual, not 3.3 times as many.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> Also, I'd like you to point out where in the US the distance between some of your larger cities is greater than all of Europe combined...Besides, I'm pretty sure Jürgen primarily meant transportation within cities.From my experience, even smaller cities (circa 50,000 people I think my best example had) are laid out as what I would describe as... "sprawling."City planning could definitely have been done better (granted, the same is true about some European cities). However, the problem a lot of cities face is, of course, what to do with the layout already in place.People value the freedom to go anywhere anytime they so desire and a car facilitates that, the question is whether it's necessary to take the car when your travel distance is fairly limited. People take their car everywhere, even when it's easily within biking or walking distance.You drive to work, then if you go out for lunch you take the car, even if the diner is just two blocks down the road. Better public transportation could mean that you have a whole designated downtown area that is virtually free of cars, where, if you live outside the city, you drive to the outskirts and then take public transportation (or ride a bike) into the city proper. It would create safer and healthier cities, save on gas/oil, provide health benefits for those who chose to walk/ride a bike... all at a lesser expense than what it costs in gas for everyone now.</blockquote>

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