Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
A glimpse at WoTC's current view of Rule 0
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9506779" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>Really? Because that absolutely seems to be what people are laying claim to. DM is absolute authority, don't you dare question them.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As noted above, I disagree heartily. Consensus and collaboration works quite well, when you treat your players as fellow human beings trying their best to produce a good time for everyone involved. And if any of the players is participating in bad faith, the exercise is already doomed from the start. No amount of DM authority can make a bad-faith participant behave themselves.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yet this argument never applies to DMs? Something fishy about that.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The DMs who do it get jollies from it. And I've seen real, specific people on this forum talk about exactly that. One example was a DM who said that they'd allow players to play dragonborn at their tables...but every shopkeeper they ever met would act like any dragonborn PCs <em>weren't even people</em> and would completely ignore anything dragonborn PCs said. That, eventually, the players would either wise up or depart the table.</p><p></p><p>This was directly said, to me, in an actual thread on this forum. I don't like naming names, so I won't name who did it. If you really care to read the original post, I can dig up a link for you, but I'd send it to you privately.</p><p></p><p>There are DMs practically popping out of the woodwork to ban this, ban that. To crap on player preferences. To nail down everything they possibly can about the setting and allow absolutely no deviation or variation--to the point that it literally isn't even possible for someone to say, "Well, couldn't I come from a faraway land unknown to these people?" because the DM already knows every possible land and every possible people on those lands and every possible political faction in all of those places. (And, yes, I am again thinking of an actual, specific person on this forum when I say these things.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9506779, member: 6790260"] Really? Because that absolutely seems to be what people are laying claim to. DM is absolute authority, don't you dare question them. As noted above, I disagree heartily. Consensus and collaboration works quite well, when you treat your players as fellow human beings trying their best to produce a good time for everyone involved. And if any of the players is participating in bad faith, the exercise is already doomed from the start. No amount of DM authority can make a bad-faith participant behave themselves. Yet this argument never applies to DMs? Something fishy about that. The DMs who do it get jollies from it. And I've seen real, specific people on this forum talk about exactly that. One example was a DM who said that they'd allow players to play dragonborn at their tables...but every shopkeeper they ever met would act like any dragonborn PCs [I]weren't even people[/I] and would completely ignore anything dragonborn PCs said. That, eventually, the players would either wise up or depart the table. This was directly said, to me, in an actual thread on this forum. I don't like naming names, so I won't name who did it. If you really care to read the original post, I can dig up a link for you, but I'd send it to you privately. There are DMs practically popping out of the woodwork to ban this, ban that. To crap on player preferences. To nail down everything they possibly can about the setting and allow absolutely no deviation or variation--to the point that it literally isn't even possible for someone to say, "Well, couldn't I come from a faraway land unknown to these people?" because the DM already knows every possible land and every possible people on those lands and every possible political faction in all of those places. (And, yes, I am again thinking of an actual, specific person on this forum when I say these things.) [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
A glimpse at WoTC's current view of Rule 0
Top