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<blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 9513760" data-attributes="member: 6785785">I was assuming D&amp;D 5e. I'm not sure I see the major distinction between the god example and determining if there's a tavern/blacksmith/whatever that a player knows about... I'm guessing it's the scale?... but sure. Let's say it's not a hometown of any PC. It's a city. The party arrives, the fighter says &quot;I know of a tavern nearby...&quot; but this city hasn't yet been brought up in anyone's backstory, or in any major way in relation to the players. How is it determined if the PC may have been here before? Different groups will handle it differently, of course. But if the DM simply accepted the player's declaration and narrated accordingly... do you really think that it will create a problem going forward that every time you arrive in a city, someone will declare that they know of a tavern? Related questions... if they did, is that really a problem? If they did and in some way it was a problem, couldn't you simply deny them at that point? &quot;Actually, no... none of you have ever been here before because X reason.&quot; Does every instance of this need to be shut down, or just ones that seem to actually be problematic in some way? I'm getting what was said just fine. As I said, if it was a problem for [USER=29398]@Lanefan[/USER]'s players, then it would make sense to not allow it. But this is because of the nature of his game and the players' expectations and dispositions.&nbsp; Actually, it's not a case that mysteries MUST work this way. There are plenty of games that show otherwise. These kind of all encompassing statements are what I'm pushing back against. You may prefer that mystery games work that way, but it doesn't mean they MUST. I'm not assuming maliciousness. And in almost every example I've offered, I've talked about the GM denying some portion or all of a player's request.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="hawkeyefan, post: 9513760, member: 6785785"] I was assuming D&D 5e. I'm not sure I see the major distinction between the god example and determining if there's a tavern/blacksmith/whatever that a player knows about... I'm guessing it's the scale?... but sure. Let's say it's not a hometown of any PC. It's a city. The party arrives, the fighter says "I know of a tavern nearby..." but this city hasn't yet been brought up in anyone's backstory, or in any major way in relation to the players. How is it determined if the PC may have been here before? Different groups will handle it differently, of course. But if the DM simply accepted the player's declaration and narrated accordingly... do you really think that it will create a problem going forward that every time you arrive in a city, someone will declare that they know of a tavern? Related questions... if they did, is that really a problem? If they did and in some way it was a problem, couldn't you simply deny them at that point? "Actually, no... none of you have ever been here before because X reason." Does every instance of this need to be shut down, or just ones that seem to actually be problematic in some way? I'm getting what was said just fine. As I said, if it was a problem for [USER=29398]@Lanefan[/USER]'s players, then it would make sense to not allow it. But this is because of the nature of his game and the players' expectations and dispositions. Actually, it's not a case that mysteries MUST work this way. There are plenty of games that show otherwise. These kind of all encompassing statements are what I'm pushing back against. You may prefer that mystery games work that way, but it doesn't mean they MUST. I'm not assuming maliciousness. And in almost every example I've offered, I've talked about the GM denying some portion or all of a player's request. [/QUOTE]

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