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<blockquote data-quote="Crimson Longinus" data-source="post: 9514700" data-attributes="member: 7025508">The thing is, in all these games we have been talking about, there are actually some limits regarding what the player is allowed to declare, be it governed by actual rule, convention, or vague mutual understanding.And if you're playing with people you know well, even the last one might suffice, but the fact of the matter is that more nebulous we get, more there is chance that someone's good faith suggestion might seem like a bad faith exploit to someone else.And I think it is fair to the players that they actually know what the limits are. That hey, here are the tools, go to town with them! What [USER=29398]@Lanefan[/USER] is saying that the players shouldn't need to second guess whether they're &quot;allowed&quot; ro use something for their advantage. Either they have the tool, and they can utilise it fully and don't need to hold back, or they don't have the tool.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Crimson Longinus, post: 9514700, member: 7025508"] The thing is, in all these games we have been talking about, there are actually some limits regarding what the player is allowed to declare, be it governed by actual rule, convention, or vague mutual understanding. And if you're playing with people you know well, even the last one might suffice, but the fact of the matter is that more nebulous we get, more there is chance that someone's good faith suggestion might seem like a bad faith exploit to someone else. And I think it is fair to the players that they actually know what the limits are. That hey, here are the tools, go to town with them! What [USER=29398]@Lanefan[/USER] is saying that the players shouldn't need to second guess whether they're "allowed" ro use something for their advantage. Either they have the tool, and they can utilise it fully and don't need to hold back, or they don't have the tool. [/QUOTE]

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