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A GMing telling the players about the gameworld is not like real life
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<blockquote data-quote="Aldarc" data-source="post: 7574196" data-attributes="member: 5142"><p>Thankfully he can just say that it's on a spectrum, which allows him to obfuscate terms and move goal posts as needed. Then he can throw in a few of his usual logical fallacy buzzwords, such as accusing you of making a false dichotomy about realism, allowing him to further evade the actual argument in the discussion. </p><p></p><p>Edit: This is all to say, that while I do think that you, [MENTION=23751]Maxperson[/MENTION] likely do have your heart in the right place and are a good DM for your table, you can be an aggrevatingly frustrating person to talk to sometimes. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p>I'll just be "that guy" and say it, but I don't care about what D&D does. I don't need D&D to be all and end all of RPG experiences. I don't use a D&D as a metric for what I am looking for in a game. </p><p></p><p> [MENTION=85555]Bedrockgames[/MENTION], I think that you are looking for far more offense than is intended with pemerton, and you should probably learn to chill out, because your "counteroffenses" are often unnecessarily disproportionate to what was said, conveyed, or intended. It tends to escalate things. I would at least suggest taking a different tact, because it's clearly not working much for anyone. If you need a good example to follow, I personally think that [MENTION=6785785]hawkeyefan[/MENTION] is an exemplary poster who know knows how to respectfully engage a variety of different posters even when he disagrees with them. </p><p></p><p>I am, however, incredulous about this statement given how "pemerton and a lot of his followers" hold a position that is undboutedly in the minority within gaming circles; if anything, it's in the reverse - that "pemerton and a lot of his followers" have to justify their own approaches - such that you are expressing a false victimization complex. And also I would warn against using language such as "and his followers," as that sort of unnecessarily loaded language marginalizes and maligns a lot of the agency that individuals have deciding their own game preferences. Let's spell this out: "mother-may-I" may be derogatory to a playstyle, but lumping people together as "pemerton and a lot his followers" displays a derogatory attitude towards actual people.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aldarc, post: 7574196, member: 5142"] Thankfully he can just say that it's on a spectrum, which allows him to obfuscate terms and move goal posts as needed. Then he can throw in a few of his usual logical fallacy buzzwords, such as accusing you of making a false dichotomy about realism, allowing him to further evade the actual argument in the discussion. Edit: This is all to say, that while I do think that you, [MENTION=23751]Maxperson[/MENTION] likely do have your heart in the right place and are a good DM for your table, you can be an aggrevatingly frustrating person to talk to sometimes. ;) I'll just be "that guy" and say it, but I don't care about what D&D does. I don't need D&D to be all and end all of RPG experiences. I don't use a D&D as a metric for what I am looking for in a game. [MENTION=85555]Bedrockgames[/MENTION], I think that you are looking for far more offense than is intended with pemerton, and you should probably learn to chill out, because your "counteroffenses" are often unnecessarily disproportionate to what was said, conveyed, or intended. It tends to escalate things. I would at least suggest taking a different tact, because it's clearly not working much for anyone. If you need a good example to follow, I personally think that [MENTION=6785785]hawkeyefan[/MENTION] is an exemplary poster who know knows how to respectfully engage a variety of different posters even when he disagrees with them. I am, however, incredulous about this statement given how "pemerton and a lot of his followers" hold a position that is undboutedly in the minority within gaming circles; if anything, it's in the reverse - that "pemerton and a lot of his followers" have to justify their own approaches - such that you are expressing a false victimization complex. And also I would warn against using language such as "and his followers," as that sort of unnecessarily loaded language marginalizes and maligns a lot of the agency that individuals have deciding their own game preferences. Let's spell this out: "mother-may-I" may be derogatory to a playstyle, but lumping people together as "pemerton and a lot his followers" displays a derogatory attitude towards actual people. [/QUOTE]
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