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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7580289" data-attributes="member: 23751">[MENTION=6785785]hawkeyefan[/MENTION] said that the DM is being a jerk if he doesn't allow the player to bring in the uncle for troll knowledge, since the players are signaling that they don't want to jump through the hoops of figuring out the troll's weakness.&nbsp; If that's so, then the DM is also being a jerk if he doesn't allow the player to bring in the same uncle for your unique monster, since they are equally signaling that they don't want to jump through the hoops of figuring out your monster's weakness.&nbsp; The same logic applies to both situations.In no version of D&amp;D is a player entitled to a unilateral background.&nbsp; 3e was probably the most forgiving in that regard, but 4e states that the DM should work with the players on their backgrounds so that they fit the story the DM has in mind.&nbsp; In 5e backgrounds are pre-written.&nbsp; In 1e the DM chose them for the players.&nbsp; And so on.What no edition allows, though, is for the addition of background after play has started, such as when you encounter a troll.&nbsp; Even 3e talks about it as something provided at character creation.I have had others agree with me that adding in background right as you encounter something to gain advantage against it is hinky(cheating).&nbsp; I have also had others agree with me that the PC doesn't just automatically get to know what the player knows.&nbsp; Those are my assertions.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 7580289, member: 23751"] [MENTION=6785785]hawkeyefan[/MENTION] said that the DM is being a jerk if he doesn't allow the player to bring in the uncle for troll knowledge, since the players are signaling that they don't want to jump through the hoops of figuring out the troll's weakness. If that's so, then the DM is also being a jerk if he doesn't allow the player to bring in the same uncle for your unique monster, since they are equally signaling that they don't want to jump through the hoops of figuring out your monster's weakness. The same logic applies to both situations. In no version of D&D is a player entitled to a unilateral background. 3e was probably the most forgiving in that regard, but 4e states that the DM should work with the players on their backgrounds so that they fit the story the DM has in mind. In 5e backgrounds are pre-written. In 1e the DM chose them for the players. And so on. What no edition allows, though, is for the addition of background after play has started, such as when you encounter a troll. Even 3e talks about it as something provided at character creation. I have had others agree with me that adding in background right as you encounter something to gain advantage against it is hinky(cheating). I have also had others agree with me that the PC doesn't just automatically get to know what the player knows. Those are my assertions. [/QUOTE]

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