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<blockquote data-quote="GreenTengu" data-source="post: 8021334" data-attributes="member: 6777454">Oh-- besides Gruumish, what about Maglibiyet?As I recall, isn't his whole thing that he has those devoted to him fight demons in the afterlife in order to seize control of the first layer of hell-- and a lot of the evil behavior of his followers is directly because they are trying to train their skills for the afterlife so that they can be an effective fighter when they arrive there.If I am not misrememebering this-- isn't the fact that goblins are inherently anti-infernal a possible point in their favor of not necessarily being evil for the sake of being evil?I don't really see a big issue with certain gods having a largely negative effect on the world so long as there is perfectly understandable motivation behind it. And if there is plenty of wiggle room so that being born an X doesn't necessarily mean you are a devotee of Y would probably help.In fact-- maybe it would be good to functionally do away with strictly racial gods all together. A given god could absolutely still be the originator of a given race, but represent a greater cause that people from any given race could potentially be drawn to. I get that within D&amp;D, because at one point they wanted characters to be able to ascend to godhood, that various gods were absolutely specific races.....But what if, instead, the gods were not simply ascended mortals but were something above and beyond mortals? Thus they represented more aspects or aims and, in doing so, various races could possibly interpret them in different ways?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GreenTengu, post: 8021334, member: 6777454"] Oh-- besides Gruumish, what about Maglibiyet? As I recall, isn't his whole thing that he has those devoted to him fight demons in the afterlife in order to seize control of the first layer of hell-- and a lot of the evil behavior of his followers is directly because they are trying to train their skills for the afterlife so that they can be an effective fighter when they arrive there. If I am not misrememebering this-- isn't the fact that goblins are inherently anti-infernal a possible point in their favor of not necessarily being evil for the sake of being evil? I don't really see a big issue with certain gods having a largely negative effect on the world so long as there is perfectly understandable motivation behind it. And if there is plenty of wiggle room so that being born an X doesn't necessarily mean you are a devotee of Y would probably help. In fact-- maybe it would be good to functionally do away with strictly racial gods all together. A given god could absolutely still be the originator of a given race, but represent a greater cause that people from any given race could potentially be drawn to. I get that within D&D, because at one point they wanted characters to be able to ascend to godhood, that various gods were absolutely specific races..... But what if, instead, the gods were not simply ascended mortals but were something above and beyond mortals? Thus they represented more aspects or aims and, in doing so, various races could possibly interpret them in different ways? [/QUOTE]

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