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Message: <blockquote data-quote="trancejeremy" data-source="post: 5877574" data-attributes="member: 924">I disagree - while you point out that direct magical attacks weren't terribly effective (because of the high magic resistance of such monsters), most high level fighters had a nice magical weapon and probably some sort of strength enhancing item (ie, Girdle of Giant Strength)Say for instance, a 13th level Paladin with a Holy Avenger and a Girdle of Frost Giant Strength. That would be +9 to hit with a THAC0 of 8, so while he'd need an 18 to hit AC -10, he'd only have to roll a 9, which is more often than not. And since they'd get two attacks per round, would probably be hitting it once per round.And the damage would likely be 1d12+10 (for being Holy Avenger vs a Demon, in Lolth's case) + 9 for strength. So 20-31 points of damage.I actually just went through the module The Forgotten Temple of Baalzebub for OSRIC (a high level module ironically with a lot of demons in it) with said Paladin (as well as a 12th level Fighter with a Sun Blade) and they really cleaned up (since most didn't have ACs anywhere near -10).edit:And bear in mind, Teleportation in AD&D carried some risk, it wasn't something you would want to do unless it was an emergency as it has a chance of killing you (getting caught in the ground) (until Teleport Without Error came along)</blockquote>